Dear melee DPS...

[Apricoth]

Actually, it doesn't do more damage than Doton. The only time you use katon is if the mobs are going to die before doton wears off. Or if you want to use kassatsu, then you can use katon --> kassatsu --> doton. Kassatsu makes every single tick of doton crit, so using double katon is a huge waste.

It's really not that situational. My point is that if you're one of those melee that purely single targets on a large pack, you need to git gud.

To each their own. All I know is I crit so often with Katon, it's not even funny. With that being said, I will trade off with Doton. If the fight is to last awhile, I will Doton. If we have a phenomenal black mage or summoner and those mobs are melting already, it is a waste to Doton - Katon is the better alternative in my opinion. That is just how I play because... Wait for it.. WAIT FOR IT - I am adaptable and do what is needed as I read the situation. Again, it is situational.

[Colorful]

Actually, it doesn't do more damage than Doton. The only time you use katon is if the mobs are going to die before doton wears off. Or if you want to use kassatsu, then you can use katon --> kassatsu --> doton. Kassatsu makes every single tick of doton crit, so using double katon is a huge waste.

It's really not that situational. My point is that if you're one of those melee that purely single targets on a large pack, you need to git gud.

Everytime I use Doton the tank moves the monsters out of the AoE, every damn time. >_< I get that you have to dodge an AoE, but at least make the effort to put them back in it. I've just started using Katon now.

[LunaSnowfield]

Dear dps.

Learn how to click on the limit break icon once its full.

every single fucking time, i have to scream and spam the chat because our 2/4 dps never wants to LB.

[Xanikk999]

I love it when it is time to stun that, and they are already stun immune.

Unless there is something that must be interrupted I use my stun on cooldown on my dragoon. It's free dps because it also does damage and it's off the global cooldown.

[FridgePanic]

"Why eat one Final Sting when you can eat two?"

[Saggo]

Targeting the lowest may lower damage to tanks, but it also quantifiably slows the run down. That's not "moar deeps" attitude, that's just trying to not waste time. The only thing that changes that is how much the healer is prevented from DPSing.

[Vartio]

Y'know, I'ma just 'counter' this narrow sighted argument:

I agree with AOEing down the whole bloody mob, I do it all the time. But the OP is talking about DPSing specifically the strongest mobs just to bring down their HP for a mass cleanup.

What you, Saggo, are saying, isn't that.
You're saying "DPS should AOE moar", that's fine. I'd say stop at about 40-50% remaining HP and begin single clearing mooks as a melee (Melee TP/MP is low, there's no way unlike mages they can perpetually spam AOEs forever). Because at some point the tank NEEDS pressure relief or the healer won't be able to keep them alive. I say 50% as that's roughly time-wisewhen you should be popping your TP Regen skill, and ideally to not begin LOSING your own potential DPS (due to any downtime due to TP Regeneration rate).

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[Vartio]

The OP is saying specifically that melee DPS should only exclusively focus higher HP mobs, which is logistically speaking braindead. Oh you can make exempt cases for it - in say Aurum Vale wherein a higher priority target catches you in their aggro field and walks in.

AOEing is fine, focusing highest HP targets simply to stall out the fight in a different way's bad. Sooner there's less enemies, the better.

Hell, I'd argue -the best- solution would be to establish how many mobs is the 'clean' zone for your healer+tank combination to handle for a long term (I'd give... 3? 5 minutes top-end?), solo down mobs until you reach it, THEN feel free to AOE to oblivion as now there's no reason not to hold back on that.

[Darkshade]

Dear melee DPS,

Please learn to maximize your AoE rotation during mass pulls.

[DkDerek]

Dear Summoners, feel free to actually kill things before I run out of TP.


That'd be great.