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  1. #41
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    Atreus's Avatar
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    Atreus Auditore
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Soular View Post
    /shrug, I just feel like skillful/organized play should be its own reward, and not be given a buff to eschew the balance even further. Fever alone has allowed me to pull some pretty stupid stunts in some games and get away with it.
    This man knows what he's talkin' about. Secure did it right.
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  2. #42
    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    I play Summoner and it isn't this monster dps job that every one is saying. Summoner is the ultimate glass cannon they have high burst damage, sustained AoE and utility but they have zero survivability so they have a big target over their head saying kill me firsts I deal lots of damage but I'm super squishy. In my experience playing Summoner I rarely get challenged by other jobs they just run away and die excepet the few that gap close then I'm either forced to run away or get interupted stun locked and killed.
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  3. #43
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    Cero0's Avatar
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    Cero Skill
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Soular View Post
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    Yeah secure is completely fine, except it sucks hard lol.I dont know any person that likes that pvp over the other 2 maps, NO ONE.

    Having the buff in pvp gives you more dmg but also gives you disadvantages and one of them is that you are MARKED in the map like if you were a light in a dark night and the whole ppl in pvp know where you are,where you are going and whats ur team doing, and that you are going to get focused by everyone.
    It just gives more variety to the pvp and its more fun, i dont understand most of you, instead of complaining you should try to make advantage of stuff like that.
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  4. #44
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cero0 View Post
    Yeah secure is completely fine, except it sucks hard lol.I dont know any person that likes that pvp over the other 2 maps, NO ONE.

    Having the buff in pvp gives you more dmg but also gives you disadvantages and one of them is that you are MARKED in the map like if you were a light in a dark night and the whole ppl in pvp know where you are,where you are going and whats ur team doing, and that you are going to get focused by everyone.
    It just gives more variety to the pvp and its more fun, i dont understand most of you, instead of complaining you should try to make advantage of stuff like that.
    We do take advantage of it. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck though. Personal LBs are just way too strong.
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  5. #45
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    Cero0's Avatar
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    Cero Skill
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    We do take advantage of it. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck though. Personal LBs are just way too strong.
    Sigh,Wihtout LBs,For example in a 24 man match if a group has 3 healelers the fight would last FOREVER, if they had more GG and the team who has better RNG would win the match coz we would never be able to take the node from them.If you guys want the RNG win over the skill, that would be sad.

    what of the LBs are you saying is too strong?
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  6. #46
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    Kapiz's Avatar
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    Jones Wright
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    We do take advantage of it. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck though. Personal LBs are just way too strong.
    Nothing can't be solved with more vit.
    EDIT: alright to be more clear
    Just like what someone said in the other thread (concerning healer's lb) even dps's lb are dangerous sometimes especially if you have BH/BF since you're marked and you'll be focused on in a big fight so locking yourself for around 2-3 whole seconds is very fatal in some cases, but it is a risk worth taking
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    Last edited by Kapiz; 08-24-2015 at 10:20 PM.

  7. #47
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    Guesswhat's Avatar
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    Aira Comet
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    I play Summoner and it isn't this monster dps job that every one is saying. Summoner is the ultimate glass cannon they have high burst damage, sustained AoE and utility but they have zero survivability so they have a big target over their head saying kill me firsts I deal lots of damage but I'm super squishy. In my experience playing Summoner I rarely get challenged by other jobs they just run away and die excepet the few that gap close then I'm either forced to run away or get interupted stun locked and killed.
    That may be true, but I think in 80-90% of my matches theres summoners on top in both damage dealt and kills (like 3-5 if there are enough of course). How often do you see 5x, um, monks or dragoons on top lol xD. Not saying it never happens but I think most people experience 5x SMN on top more often than 5x MNK on top.
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  8. #48
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Leozhontai View Post
    I play monk if you all are wondering.
    What are everyone else opinion on this issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    [...]you're just as good as sitting down opening your arms and saying 'oh sweet death i waited for thee'
    What's the deal with MNKs complaining about SMNs? It's like a Charizard complaining he can't deal with a Venusaur.
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  9. #49
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Guesswhat View Post
    That may be true, but I think in 80-90% of my matches theres summoners on top in both damage dealt and kills (like 3-5 if there are enough of course). How often do you see 5x, um, monks or dragoons on top lol xD. Not saying it never happens but I think most people experience 5x SMN on top more often than 5x MNK on top.
    i killed as much with my monk as i do with my smn, and im talking about +8 kills,cant do as much dmg as a caster but i can kill as much as them.I guess is more easy to get kills as smn or a BLM than a melee, but you can get as many as a smn with other dps classes.
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  10. #50
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    SMN are almost always the top 5+ dps in the frontline at the end. That really shouldn't be the case as often as it is.

    And as far as comparing SMN to BLM... Problem these days is as a BLM with long cast times either you get right in peoples faces (dangerous) or half the time they walk out of range (not even intentionally) before your casts finish. SMN on the other hand can cast most of their dps while moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

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