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  1. #181
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    AlphaDragoon's Avatar
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    Having both options is great. Let's face it, Anima runs out. Quickly. And adding airships that didn't have a fast travel option would have done nothing to alleviate this (contrary to popular belief) because instead of going "Well I'll just take the long airship ride, at least it's immersive yay", it'd be "Screw that airship, it takes 10 minutes to get to town. I'm gonna ask for a teleport and pay somebody to get there".

    The only way adding airship travel was going to stop people from using Anima is if it offered the same speed of travel. Which is instant. Airships don't make Anima useless (as you have way less options for destination on airship travel than you do with Anima), but it does make it manageable, which was the point. But that isn't what most people complaining wanted, unfortunately. They wanted something more like "Yay we got our immersion, and you can't have convenience! Unless you have Anima that runs out with no way to restore it other than time, of course. Oh, you don't? You have to take a long time to go somewhere, we're forcing our immersion down your throat! We win, you lose!".

    Now, people trying to go from say, Gridania to Limsa quickly will go, "instead of using my Anima I can pay some Gil and take the airship over to the Limsa, and get there quickly so I can do what I need to do there". And for the people who want the immersion, it's still there. It's not magically going away because other people might need to get there fast and use the instant option. And they'll probably add features that will make people want to use the long version when they have time.

    Ultimately, in this case choice doesn't make it a gamebreaker. It just makes everyone happy. Well, it doesn't make the people who want to force everyone to do it their way or the highway happy.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon View Post
    Ultimately, in this case choice doesn't make it a gamebreaker. It just makes everyone happy. Well, it doesn't make the people who want to force everyone to do it their way or the highway happy.
    Of course it's not a game breaker. But it's a huge let down for setting for Eorzea. It's a huge let down to the time and resources the dev team will devote to creating the experience of riding the airship, when most likely a large portion of the community will opt for the fast travel option over the actual ride.

    They already have a fast travel option, it's called Anima.

    My basic feeling is by creating alternatives to singular modes of travel (airship ride vs air ship fast travel) it creates more and more fractures in the player community. Ultimately reinforcing the single player MMO mentality.

    There was something special in he early days of FFXI riding the ferry with other players and facing down pirate attacks or NM spawns. I just imagined that FFXIV would be similar instead of implementing a paid warp.
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  3. #183
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    DantesAmore's Avatar
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    insta travel is very sexy, but an OPTION to ride the airship rather then insta warp might be nice, for those that wish to enjoy a ride. if your in a rush it can be a pain in the butt though.

    i'd like to personally see both options, from time to time i just want to get there and be on my way; However myself and many others do enjoy the ride once in awhile.
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  4. #184
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    That's how they're planning to implement it Dante, insta-travel only at first, with options for insta-travel or a scenic ride (and maybe battles/events) coming later.
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  5. #185
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    Choyi Baeldurn
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    I have to say some of the design decisions revealed last month has shaken my faith in the direction the game will go into,
    I fear the game is turning out to be way to casual catering for my personal taste.

    Now that airship is just a glorified 0 anima cost city to city warp, I have to say I'm very disapointed, how did it take so long for them to implement it then?
    And wasnt aiship/chocobo supposed to be travel option for thoose with more time on their hands, and anima still there for thoose in a rush?

    And I don't know but , if you consider yourself casual player and you're running out of anima, then you aren't casual
    I play 2-3h on average per day (doing my leves and occational dungeon/FNM or exp duo) and I'm never lower then 60-70 anima...
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  6. #186
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    I was sad when i saw this aswell, hopefully they add a full fly mode
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  7. #187
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    Even if they add a full ride flight as an "option" it will make no difference. They would have to put a vast amount of content on it just to get people to ride and they probably wont. The sad fact is that by adding a fast travel airship they have effectively killed the concept of a immersive real time travel system.

    You can pretty much count the ferry as dead in the water as well..
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  8. #188
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    i will watch the CS once and skip every other time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    i will watch the CS once and skip every other time.
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    Same here. Because I'm quite tired of seeing the same ferry cut scene over and over.
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  10. #190
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Here is a million dollar idea SE, from the mouth of the "I want it now" club.

    Considering Airships will be optional trips for those who have "No time" yet are seemingly out of anima (How this works I will never know) We need to be more considerate to them! Getting from City to city is almost meaningless what are they going to do when they get there?

    Grab leves and then...USE ANIMA to teleport to their camps? I THINK NOT! Chocobos are coming as well, I suggest we make a free optional cutscene for chocobos to pick-up and drop-off players at the Aetherite camp of their choice. Anima is limited and players are always starved for time. Why waste their time moving from point A to point B at all?

    This is just the start of my revolutionary ideas for the game. Look forward to my next post about "Lev monsters being at a slight distance...how droll, make them warp to us."
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