I don't know what to do

[MN_14]

Unless they have a lot of time to gather favor items, I think most crafters will have to go with the assumption that they will probably be stuck to a single class by the time 3* crafts are introduced. However, there are things that can be done in the meantime.

At the moment, you have to craft the offhands and accessories for both the crafted i170 and non-crafted i180 routes, so you could start on those. I wouldn't advise crafting all of the offhands, however, since that would be meaningless if you're stuck to i180 gear. You wouldn't want to have a full complement of offhands, but no other gear pieces for a single class.

What you do next will depend on the following:

1. If grade 5 melds are feasible and you have a lot of time and gil, you can craft as many i170 gear pieces as possible. It'll mean spending hundreds of hours on your gear assuming no changes are made, but you'll progress the fastest.
2. If you have very little time, you have no choice but to go with the i180 gear (probably the case for a lot of crafters). Keep in mind that at the moment, it takes 4.5 hours of gathering just for an offhand.
3. If grade 5 melds are feasible and you have some time to grind plus some extra gil, I suppose you can mix and match crafted i170 gear with the non-crafted i180 gear. i180 mainhands and main body pieces cost the most crafting tokens, so i170 versions of those should probably be prioritized.

Unfortunately, no one knows how feasible grade 5 melds will be, so it's difficult to determine what to do. A wait and see approach is probably best for now.

[Thrustie]

Grade 5 melds are not really required on most 170 gear to make it superior to red scrips 180 gear. Only the main hand needs grade 5s.

[Iagainsti]

So it takes 3 weeks to get your eso weapon
It takes 3 weeks to get your DoH weapon

I'm not seeing the problem here

[PotatoWafflez]

I've gone down the red scrip gear route because:

I don't have a lot of gil saved up to buy the ilvl170 gear and would rather not deal with the headache of trying to get the ilvl170 gear at HQ
I don't play any of the top end markets so I don't need the best gear anyway

So I've just been focusing on buying my CRP set because its what I use to cap so it helps me most in the short term just because it makes that slightly easier on paper and I can attempt my accessories later on if I want to.

Mainly just going through the motions and getting what little "upgrades" I can get for minimal effort till we find out if its going to be like tomes or not and we get something like "Green" scrips in 3.1 and the whole thing starts all over again while red gets smooshed together with blue which is what I've been thinking since the system was introduced but I hope isn't the case.

[MeridaQ]

So it snip

Because getting your new tools does not change the endgame progression, it is still cyclical. Get new gear to get more new gear, no new recipes no new progression/content. You can make everything with the i150 gear, ergo no reason to upgrade. Compared to raiding where each new piece gives you that little bit extra needed to progress farther. If this still is hard to understand I apologize for not explaining it well.

[Aeyis]

I don't get crafters. People wanted an endgame, and this is what an MMO endgame is.

And I dont get you. Why do some people feel the need to comment on the current state of crafting and/or gathering if they dont partake in it themselves?

I'm not an economist, but I'm pretty sure specialisation and trade stimulate an economy. This is a good thing for you, surely?

That you arent kind of shows. The new system killed off much of the economy, not stimulated it.

You get a grind, or you get a price.

~Grind is meaningless if there is no reward from it.
There is a grind to make basic items. Im not even sure who such a system is intended for.

So it takes 3 weeks to get your eso weapon
It takes 3 weeks to get your DoH weapon

I'm not seeing the problem here

I'm not surprised you dont see the problem. STR WARs arent known for their amazing brainpower after all~

Grade 5 melds are not really required on most 170 gear to make it superior to red scrips 180 gear. Only the main hand needs grade 5s.

Except they are needed to make them superior to the fully melded items you used to make that same i170 gear.

[Thrustie]

Uh no. You could fill them with tier 4s or even 3s and they'd be significantly better than fully melded 150 gear.

[Katchoo]

How do you craft the ilvl170 crafted gear? Well you have to use ilvl150 gear initially right?. So if you can craft ilvl170 with ilvl150 why would you even craft the ilvl170?

It's really about them needing to release more crafting recipes for DoW to make it all worthwhile but it remains to be seen if they will do so. The stance has been is that they did not want crafted gear to be used as it was in 2.00, but hopefully they will see that thats what actually worked and what people enjoyed.

The progression seem so strange to me in 3.00.

It used to be: No star Crafted > 1* Crafted > 2*Crafted and now its ... No star crafted > 2* Crafted?? How does that make sense?

[Iagainsti]

Because getting your new tools does not change the endgame progression, it is still cyclical. Get new gear to get more new gear, no new recipes no new progression/content. You can make everything with the i150 gear, ergo no reason to upgrade. Compared to raiding where each new piece gives you that little bit extra needed to progress farther. If this still is hard to understand I apologize for not explaining it well.

You are, but it was the same in 2.0. Your grinding for the wep/gear so the new patch recipes will be craftable. Then, like 2.x, the next round of gear will show up in 6-8months to grind again. Just like raiding. You do savage now to get SA4 down, get your wep and gear for the next content to drop. Cyclical yes, but not as shortsighted as you make it.

[Iagainsti]

I'm not surprised you dont see the problem. STR WARs arent known for their amazing brainpower after allr.

You, sir, have #nochill and flaming me on half cocked theories regarding my intelligence based on my preference of class and role to game on shows more about your immature and facetious personality(layman term=no real life friends because you're toxic and a probable social pariah) #getalifebruh