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    Sapphidia's Avatar
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    Sapphidia Wulfhaven
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I can understand that (do note that -10% Strength debuff doesnt equate to -10% less damage done though, it's generally less than 10% and it only affects physical damage).

    That's why the best rotation for most to use is Goring -> Halone -> Royal. You really shouldnt need to do more than one Halone combo every 3 rotations to stay miles ahead on threat, and you'll still keep near 100% uptime of the strength debuff whilst boosting your damage.

    I guess it IS fairly minmaxy if you're not in content that has super tough DPS checks, but even in 4mans I try to min max my output just to feel like I'm doing my best for my group. Everyone loves a swift dungeon run and if I can make it 4 seconds quicker by using more Royal Authorities, go me! ^^
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  2. #12
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    Character
    Yolanda Freebush
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphidia View Post
    I can make it 4 seconds quicker by using more Royal Authorities, go me! ^^
    It was funny today I did a little test with full VIT vs STR accessories. Doing the same rotation on the same monster and no critical hits. I saved 2 button pushes in full STR all of a gain of about 3 seconds give or take. Those seconds add up for sure.
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  3. #13
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    Martin_Arcainess's Avatar
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    Martin Arcainess
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    We have the lowest DPS and lowest enmity among the tank classes by a long shot. While I don't think we've ever been given figures for how much extra enmity is generated by Flash or RoH, even with Shield Oath's boost, we can't compete with DRK and WAR (we're also pathetic on AoE pulls - just try tanking against a 170+ BLM or SMN for proof of that).

    The problem is that we can't use these new combos until we are exceptionally geared without endangering the party.

    So yeah, good for DPS checks where you're not having to hold hate, but otherwise (sadly) not really worth it.

    PLD can do AOE pulls quite well even agaisnt the The Mage class, the best rotation to keep mobs on you when mages are working is Flash then combine fof with cos, fast blade flash riot blade flash repeat the fast, flash riot combo and your MP will be fine and the aggro will be kept.
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