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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100

    Dragoon's high PIE

    Dragoon has had PIE compared to other DPS since 1.0 because in 1.0 PIE was similar to what DET is now, in that it was a DPS secondary stat for Lancer. I think between 1.0 and ARR, this was never addressed, and thus DRG has unusually high PIE and therefore high MP. Considering DRG cannot cast any spells, will this ever be re-purposed or put to a use in the future? Maybe in the future, DRG can get 'breath' attacks or support spells that have cast times and consume MP? Maybe a Healing Breath (a DRG staple spell) or a Reis Wind (regen effect). Just something to make use of the huge MP pool we have, preferably for self heals when soloing or support. I mean I have like 4000 MP and can't use any of it for anything...?
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Some crafting jobs have higher HP than others too. Useless but harmless 1.0 carryovers. DRG is already top of the pile, doesn't need its now-defunct PIE stat turned into yet another boost.
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    Yesui Malqir
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Yeah, breath attacks would be cool. Maybe something like Venus Gospel where we get a damage buff based on how much MP% we have, then Lancet to recover MP.
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    Makasita Fenrir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    4275 without a group, to be precise. I'd love to be able to flip over to MP burning mode if I'm out of TP and invigorate isn't ready yet (a DRK habit I picked up), but I'm pretty sure giving DRG effectively two resource pools would just put every other DPS in the dirt forever.
    Maybe they could give DRG MP a use if they made a (real) tank variant...
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    #gitgud

    Ongoing mission: Tank everything on DRG. On purpose.

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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    I think Life Surge is Lancet.

    Ryuken is the JP phrase for Lancer/Dragon/Lancet/Dragon Sword/Spirit Surge ability used in FF5/FF7/FF9/FF10/FF11 respectively. That being said, since FFXI's Spirit Surge in JP is called Ryuken in the JP FFXI, I think Life Surge in FFXIV in JP might also be Ryuken (the animation even shows dragon spirits wrapping around you, not unlike Freya's 'Lancer" attack in FF9. It also drains HP from the mob, just like Lancer/Lancet.

    Now something like White Draw or Reis Wind would be cool abiltiies for a lv70 level cap in the future. Reis Wind could be a weaker AoE or even a self Regen, as opposed to Second Wind which is instant. White Draw could be an oGCD with like 120 potency that confers 25% of the damage into raid-wide +MP or something lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    White Draw could be an oGCD with like 120 potency that confers 25% of the damage into raid-wide +MP or something lol.
    You'll make the Bards angry saying things like that.
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    120 potency is like a 600 damage attack....25% of that is 150MP...if it's a 60 second cool down, is that really even that big of a deal?
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    Shandraya Heavenswind
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    120 potency is like a 600 damage attack....25% of that is 150MP...if it's a 60 second cool down, is that really even that big of a deal?
    If all you're giving is 150 MP every 60 seconds, why bother even having it?

    it'd take you a few minutes just to give your healers one more heal.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    I guess, I was just thinking of creative ways for us to use our massive MP pool, even if it's just added support when solo or in 4mans or something, kinda like Freya in FF9 that had some light support abilities in addition to her damage abilities. Nothing game changing or to increase our DPS as it's already high, but I figure MNK has Mantra and Second Wind, DRG has Battle Litany but only at 52, no other real support or heals except from cross class. They could even make White Draw or Reis Wind a lancer ability so other people could cross class it.
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    Jerle Graves
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Battle Litany is quite clearly the result of DRG's having high piety.
    Why else would you pray in the middle of a battle if you weren't devout?
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