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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You guys are playing an MMO your playing it to kill time as it is. You should manage your anima better, I play every day and have 90 anima. Theres a thing where, if your in a party and you always ride the airship they are going to get mad that you wont do it instant..... Wont party with you no more youll lose friends, SO EVEN IF I WANTED TO RIDE THE SHIP I COULDNT
    I play for entertainment, not a time sink. I don't get super involved with the dungeons because they take hours of setup(for success) and I don't have time for that. Riding the airship won't be much help for parties anyway except to meet in a certain city. for instance I would like to have my HP be Gridania, but with the market wards and most people staying in Uldah I just leave my HP there. If I have to wait for airship to meet my friends I will just teleport. If I have to wait 15 minutes to go check if an item is for sale I will just teleport. Adding the airship as a time sink is stupid, there are plenty of ways to waste time. I want to be entertained. It is call PLAYING for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocothief View Post
    I play for entertainment, not a time sink. I don't get super involved with the dungeons because they take hours of setup(for success) and I don't have time for that. Riding the airship won't be much help for parties anyway except to meet in a certain city. for instance I would like to have my HP be Gridania, but with the market wards and most people staying in Uldah I just leave my HP there. If I have to wait for airship to meet my friends I will just teleport. If I have to wait 15 minutes to go check if an item is for sale I will just teleport. Adding the airship as a time sink is stupid, there are plenty of ways to waste time. I want to be entertained. It is call PLAYING for a reason.
    (late response) Why are you even playing an MMO then? Why is anyone? If you dont wanna spend time growing your character, exploring while doing this and that, go play a single player game(EVEN THEY HAVE TIME SYNCS TO MAKE GAME LONGER). Your guys logic doesn't make sense at all, I'm sorry.


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    Last edited by Rokien; 09-08-2011 at 01:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    (late response) Why are you even playing an MMO then? Why is anyone? If you dont wanna spend time growing your character, exploring while doing this and that, go play a single player game(EVEN THEY HAVE TIME SYNCS TO MAKE GAME LONGER). Your guys logic doesn't make sense at all, I'm sorry.


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    how in the world is an airship ride growing your character?
    listen and listen clear. waiting on an airship NOT fun.
    Getting to were you need to go? FUN.
    please get that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    how in the world is an airship ride growing your character?
    listen and listen clear. waiting on an airship NOT fun.
    Getting to were you need to go? FUN.
    please get that.
    Having A living active world = fun

    Easy mode teleport everywhere in seconds = not fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    (late response) Why are you even playing an MMO then? Why is anyone? If you dont wanna spend time growing your character, exploring while doing this and that, go play a single player game(EVEN THEY HAVE TIME SYNCS TO MAKE GAME LONGER). Your guys logic doesn't make sense at all, I'm sorry.


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    Nowhere in his post does he suggest that he doesn't want to spend time developing a character, or even explore, only that he wants his time to be well-spent. Having to wait for access to transportation, and then having to wait for said transportation to reach its destination, adds nothing to the game experience, and only serves to draw things out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quanta View Post
    Nowhere in his post does he suggest that he doesn't want to spend time developing a character, or even explore, only that he wants his time to be well-spent. Having to wait for access to transportation, and then having to wait for said transportation to reach its destination, adds nothing to the game experience, and only serves to draw things out.
    He can already teleport EVERYwhere. He never HAS to wait for transportation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    He can already teleport EVERYwhere. He never HAS to wait for transportation.
    Anima is a limited resource, and once you're out of it, your only solution at the moment is to go around on foot. It's one of the reasons that Ul'dah is the centre of the universe: few people, at least in my opinion, want to waste anima or go on a 30-minute run just to get additional leves or check the markets; they'd rather gather in one place and save their resources for other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    He can already teleport EVERYwhere. He never HAS to wait for transportation.
    That is partially true. Nobody can teleport everywhere, and eventually we have to wait for transportation. Anima is the only valuable currency in the game right now. The point of airships would be quick travel between the cities to visit the crafting guild of your choice, check various market wards and meet up with friends in a time friendly manner without using anima. If I have to wait 10-20 minutes to get there, nothing changes for me (and most other players) because we will simply teleport.

    Arguments against this are asinine. There is a fine line between maintaining immersion and punishing players. I wouldn't mind if airships were a group instance where you talk to an npc and have the option to sleep through the ride, and pop out on the other side. The players who wish to ride the thing for the whole time are free to.

    Can anyone explain why forcing every player to sit and be bored is a good thing? There are enough time sinks in the game as-is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocothief View Post
    There are enough time sinks in the game as-is.
    Like?

    Leveling is the only time-sink we have at all, it's not about the time sink anyways it's not even really about imersion. It's about being a balanced system that makes sense. Whats the point of the instant airships in the long run? It serves no purpose other than allowing people to jump between towns that were initially spread out for a reason, this crushes any of that reason, or effort that went into creating a map that seperates the cities at all.

    It's akin to having a door at the end of each city that magically connects them all, you don't travel to them, you just pop from one to the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Like?

    Leveling is the only time-sink we have at all, it's not about the time sink anyways it's not even really about imersion. It's about being a balanced system that makes sense. Whats the point of the instant airships in the long run? It serves no purpose other than allowing people to jump between towns that were initially spread out for a reason, this crushes any of that reason, or effort that went into creating a map that seperates the cities at all.

    It's akin to having a door at the end of each city that magically connects them all, you don't travel to them, you just pop from one to the other.

    Keep running between them if you want. Run everywhere. This discussion is insane and I am done with it.
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