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  1. #61
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    Seifa's Avatar
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    Seifa Chante
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    It's ok, now thanks to the casuals screaming that FcoB was cleared the first week by the most dedicated raiding guild while they were still wiping to the first boss, we have this shit of raid that's made only to block the majority of players by retarded mechanics and gear checks to keep us subbed longer. But don't be delusional, most won't go past A3S even with full Esoteric gear and those will be the guys that complained about FcoB's difficulty. Enjoy your normal mode that can be done in one evening and your red scripts.
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  2. #62
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seifa View Post
    It's ok, now thanks to the casuals screaming that FcoB was cleared the first week by the most dedicated raiding guild while they were still wiping to the first boss, we have this shit of raid that's made only to block the majority of players by retarded mechanics and gear checks to keep us subbed longer. But don't be delusional, most won't go past A3S even with full Esoteric gear and those will be the guys that complained about FcoB's difficulty. Enjoy your normal mode that can be done in one evening and your red scripts.
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  3. #63
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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seifa View Post
    It's ok, now thanks to the casuals screaming that FcoB was cleared the first week by the most dedicated raiding guild while they were still wiping to the first boss, we have this shit of raid that's made only to block the majority of players by retarded mechanics and gear checks to keep us subbed longer. But don't be delusional, most won't go past A3S even with full Esoteric gear and those will be the guys that complained about FcoB's difficulty. Enjoy your normal mode that can be done in one evening and your red scripts.
    Really, I thought it was the hardcore players that were screaming that, claiming that 'just anyone' could clear their precious high end content and therefore their loot was worthless.

    Seems the truth is called out finally - salty players will be salty.

    Speaking logistically. I don't see any problems here. SE said that they tuned the rating on Savage higher than Coil was. But most would not clear coil unless they had upgraded current-level gear/weapons anyways.

    Anyways, it's fun watching the pendulum swing.
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  4. #64
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    Kori Fleming
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    I've only seen up to the 4th leg on stream, but the only thing that was a "DPS check" was the Straf Dolls and they weren't necessarily a high one if you did the mechanic correctly.

    I'm curious what the last phase is like and how tight the enrage is, but I guess we've got awhile until someone streams/reveals that much progress.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 08-20-2015 at 07:17 AM.

  5. #65
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    Violet Flower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Is that the new buzzword for fanboy? How clever and original. "Any person who is not unhappy with a game or it's feature must be a blind follower of the franchise." I'm sure any effort put into explaining the flaw in your logic would be wasted, so I'm not going to bother.
    If any controversial decision is against the players, lowers their gameplay experience and players approve it then yes, I will call it a blind following. First and foremost, we are paying customers and shouldn't allow ourselves to be treated like that. But I see no much self respect in apologists. They'll approve whatever, even impossible content for which people are not ready. What are players supposed to do in weeks/months before they gather enough gear for A4S clear? To practice mechanics which they already nailed? Or, more likely, just to continue paying their subs because it's the only real reason behind 'gear wall'?
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  6. #66
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    If any controversial decision is against the players, lowers their gameplay experience and players approve it then yes, I will call it a blind following. First and foremost, we are paying customers and shouldn't allow ourselves to be treated like that. But I see no much self respect in apologists. They'll approve whatever, even impossible content for which people are not ready. What are players supposed to do in weeks/months before they gather enough gear for A4S clear? To practice mechanics which they already nailed? Or, more likely, just to continue paying their subs because it's the only real reason behind 'gear wall'?
    Seriously, who are you to claim who is an apologist? You follow them on every post or something?
    I have no problem with a raid sometimes requiring more gear to do stuff. Why? Because it might not be impossible after all. Numerous times in mmo history stuff was claimed impossible and yet people managed to defeat it.
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    Last edited by Assirra; 08-20-2015 at 11:43 AM.

  7. #67
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    Or maybe they deliberately made it require weeks of gear farming (and less for those that can clear A1S-A3S) because it keeps those players paying subs longer.
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  8. #68
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priya View Post
    Gotta make a 4 boss raid "last a long time" somehow. The sooner the bosses die, the sooner people farm up their BiS and unsub until the next Alex installment.
    Well, it took 2 years to clear Plane of War in EQ2....

    Nothing was so much as touched in there until the level cap was increased it was that brutal...
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  9. #69
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Oh I'm glad it's not beatable like T13. I even do derp things when first time enter T13 without watching any video yet I can clear it as SCH.
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  10. #70
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    Violet Flower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    Oh I'm glad it's not beatable like T13. I even do derp things when first time enter T13 without watching any video yet I can clear it as SCH.
    Yes, you can clear it now easily in unsynced mode. But can I ask you how many weeks/months passed after T13 launch, when the difficulty was still relevant, until you've beaten it for the first time?
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