If you could kill off one of the scions...

[Ayuhra]

I don't actively dislike any of the Scions but I guess Minfilia would get my vote as well.

[PogueX]

it would be totally awesome if they killed off minfilla, Sephiroth-style

the difference is no one will cry this time around

[-Krypyonite-]

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I don't think that was exactly a knife.... : http://xivdb.com/?item/2000461/Minfilia%27s-dagger , jokes aside.

she is just a really useless character being ''leader'' wich, since around the titan quests, Alphinaud has been doing better, despite his errors with the Crystal braves. As a Character alphinaud, to me, seems to be just a better minfilia, WITH some battle usefulness.

Yeah, not all characters have to be fighters, but they need to have a function, in wich minfilia lacks importance. And truth to be told, her dialogs as character are really boring.

regarding this post in specific. I remember hearing a podcast of Thancreds english voice actor, (around, before 2.55 patch) where he said taht the story was getting really good, that his favourite part is already to come (probably those 2.55 quests) and that the heavensward stuff was being quite good aswell, so. Thancred is defenetly not dead.

I doubt any of them are actually... But if i were to kill one, Minfilia defently. Atleast Tataru is doing cool outfits for everyone except the WoL (I love the yshtola gear !)

TL;DR Minfilia sucks, Thancred is defo not dead, Tataru crafts atleast. Lalas are evil in overall anyway.

[Kurashiki]

Not Thancred as I like his character and background, kinda wish they'd tell us more about his time as a scoundrel then getting picked by Louisoix for example. And I always liked characters who were rogue-ish, they always make for interesting personalities.

If I had to pick one, Minfilia hands down. Especially because all she seems to do is decorate her room while delegating all the work to the WoL. Only reason I'd keep her around is if she went back to save Thancred. She could still get killed after though.

[Eisen-Zorn]

I believe all of this hatred for Minfilia stems from the fact that she basically does nothing for the entire story. She leads the Scions of the Seventh Dawn, but she hasn't done anything but give orders and get captured. Aside from just knowing the right people, and having The Echo, she has no redeeming qualities as a character. She is needy, melodramatic, and, when situations get dangerous, she hasn't shown any offensive, defensive, or supportive skills that would benefit the Scions.

Minfilia is, to be honest, riding on the shoulders of the other Scions as a glorified quest giver.

[Walluh]

Minfilia, because nothing of value would be lost.

Alphinaud (and to a lesser extent Y'shtola, IMO) do the whole 'leader' thing better, and Tataru does the management thing better.

Minfilia exists to be an obligatory echo for..the echo, and basically only stays around to remind you it's a thing, or to be a damsel in distress.

Ysayle does the former better, and Alphinaud does the latter better.

[Belhi]

I think from a pure narrative point of view Minfilia dying would be a major waste of some really interesting narrative plot threads. I do think she has been stuck behind a desk for too long though. This is a girl who grew up hunted by Garlean agents and who learned to survive under the tutelage of the Songstress of Ul'dah. She never lead anyone till she hit the age of 18. She has a skill set we really have never seen her use. That's ignoring that we still have no idea what happened to the body of her father.

Minfilia however hasn't been incompetent. She does turn to the WoL as someone to lean on but she is the one all the other Scion lean on. We see this several times. Further she is very capable at her job. People who complain managers are useless have never dealt with bad managers. She makes sure the Scions are where they are most needed. She makes sure we always have the resources we need. She arranges the gathering and analysis of information that allows us to know when and where primals are summoned and she is the one who has organised researchers who provided us with the knowledge of the declining Aetheric levels in Eorzea.

Minfilia isn't a fighter. I do think though that she hasn't had a chance to shine yet. I'm hoping we get to see that next time we see her. Then again depending on how they develop her she might even go back to using her true name.

Most of the Scions have had very little development. 2.X was mostly about re establishing the world. In 3.0 we have seen them expand and flesh out the Scions present a lot. I don't think I'd want any of the Scions to die but if one was to die it certainly wouldn't be one of the ones who's development we still haven't seen.

[Daralii]

IMO there's nothing wrong with Minfilia as a character, just the presentation of it. She coordinated and lead the Scions from their formation up until Ul'dah, but very little of the importance of her position was shown beyond giving orders.

Yda's probably the Scion I like the least, though my immediate reaction to a character I dislike isn't the desire to see them killed off. It'd probably be Thancred or Tataru, as their deaths(real deaths, not just MIA) would carry a lot of emotional weight.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

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You pretty much nailed it. Minfilia IS important, but her presentation comes off weak at times and makes her look worse than people say she is. However, I think a lot of people here that want her dead because "she doesn't do anything" are confusing that bit with "doesn't do anything herself/physically". Minfilia is the face of the Scions and is basically their commander. Commanders/leader types generally don't go in the field with their allies since they have to come up with the plans, go over it with their party, etc. In Minfilia's case, she knows which Scion may be best for certain areas of research or investigations and she also has to act as the group's mediator when the Scion's interests may or may not mesh well with the other city state leaders (or anyone else that may come into contact with the group in general). Someone has to take the boring job of doing that sort of stuff.

Minfilia also was willing to put her life on the line in the two times she was captured in 2.0. When Livia was beating her within an inch of her life, she refused to tell her what she wanted to know, even if it meant being killed for it. When Nabriales demanded that Minfilia hand over Louisoix's staff, she refused to do it, knowing what consequences it would bring for refusing (and she probably would stand no chance fighting him anyway as Moenbryda woefully demonstrated) and she would have died too if Nabriales had his way. After Moenbryda is killed, Minfilia tells the Warrior of Light that if it weren't for him/her, she would have broken down and it is thanks to them that she can put on a brave face as a leader so that everyone can soldier on in the worst of times (a strong leader is viewed at someone who can keep it together no matter what).

Remember how a lot of people in the forums didn't like Alphinaud for also "doing nothing" and then did a 180 once he started to pull his own weight? He tried to be a leader like Minfilia, but he lacked the experience and the skill to do what she does, which is why everything fell apart in 2.5. I'm not saying Alphinaud's character grew better sorely because he became more proactive, but that it takes a lot to be a leader who can keep relations between parties on good standing; Minfilia had that capability while Alphinaud did not.

So even though Minfilia doesn't do the things that the rest of the Scions do, she still does her own thing, even though it isn't glamourous. Again, the presentation of the character could be better, but I don't think she should "be killed off" just because she's not some hotshot who can do everything. The want of having a character rubbed off just because they're not interesting enough is just childish.

[Misutoraru]

i dont have much emotion toward those member
most of the time they just ask me to go here, go there, do this and do that
but Alphinaud, have my hatred since 2.X
first, i really dont like his look, but this is only personal
it is his ego, his naive thinking and over confidence
and yes becoz Minfilia basicly done nothing, i dont have any emotion about her
and i blame you Alphinaud, the death of Haurchefant, i blame you, although it is not much your fault