Any reason to launch A4 Savage as an impossible raid?

[Martin_Arcainess]

Lmao at this game's apologist community.

4-5 days maintenance ?
"I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means we get better servers "

Two Expert dungeons for the next 3-4 months?
"I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means we'll get some other conent too "

The bard ruined by The Wanderer's Minuet?
"I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means bard's damage will not suck as much as without it "

The Flare or Holy nerfed?
"I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means other jobs will have to contribute more "

The raid is currently impossible and ignores your skill level?
"I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means there'll be a reason to farm esoterics for a few more weeks/months "

*looks around in comment, nope not seeing a sorry in there, what's your problem with my post anyway? you know people are entitled to there own thoughts and opinions. What don't you like about A4 Savage requiring gear to pass it? Isn't that why we gearing up? or you one of them peeps that read 1 line and that's it?

[SuperZay]

What don't you like about A4 Savage requiring gear to pass it? Isn't that why we gearing up?

No, we should be gearing only to make it easier. Previous Savages have never required gear from months ahead to clear it, only true skill mattered as it should be in a real hard raid without cheap difficulty.

[RiceisNice]

No, we should be gearing only to make it easier. Previous Savages have never required gear from months ahead to clear it, only true skill mattered as it should be in a real hard raid without cheap difficulty.

You mean something like SCoB which never got easier even with gear, essentially rendering one major point of gearing from SCoB moot.


Oh, and I hate SCoB in general while I can find fun in BCoB and FCoB. Esp FCoB thst balanced nicely between gear checks and mechanics, savage does the same.

And is it not "true skill" to push what your gear is beyond capable of? Because that's exactly what was done for savage 3

[AsteriaStarfall]

No, we should be gearing only to make it easier. Previous Savages have never required gear from months ahead to clear it, only true skill mattered as it should be in a real hard raid without cheap difficulty.

With that logic, then we could entirely strip our gear and be able to beat it??? See where the problem is? It is a gear check. You put time and effort into getting gear that allows you to down the harder raid. Almost every MMO gates the harder content with the ilvl of gear from the previous difficulty.

[Martin_Arcainess]

No, we should be gearing only to make it easier. Previous Savages have never required gear from months ahead to clear it, only true skill mattered as it should be in a real hard raid without cheap difficulty.

Says who? Most of the time the devs have been trying to put in Raids where gear will stop you from progressing. They even mentioned about T12 beining unbeatable without the right gear, well we've seen how well that gone but Gear sole purpose is not to make things easier, yes it dose make encounters easier but that shouldn't be it's soul purpose.

The difference here is people's gear at the time was long ready for T5 clear, but unknown mechanics were literally a killer. Nowadays Twister just kills you if you are on it at the end of the cast. Back then it also checked if you were more than 1.5ish yalms away from the Twister as well and kill you if you were too far. This meant that you had to move in really tiny U shapes to not hit the max or min range to trigger the twister. It got nerfed 2 days after the first clear.
A4S is straight up impossible even if all players do all mechanics perfectly. Don't you think it's a bit unfair?

No I don't think it's unfair, it's the whole point of raiding, get better gear to do the later turns. So far it's just A4S that has provided this and this way it's given people a motivation to gear up for gear even more.

It's all down to how you want to play, if you want the latest gear to beat the floor, good, already beaten the floor but want more of the gear just for glmaour? Showing off then fine.

[silentwindfr]

No, we should be gearing only to make it easier. Previous Savages have never required gear from months ahead to clear it, only true skill mattered as it should be in a real hard raid without cheap difficulty.

errmm you will have hated the raid a few years ago.... gears is not there for make easier to beat a content, but for beat the content. that a huge trouble with the new raiding community of the present mmorpg community, they think that the gears is the reward, when is not the case. often some content was not beatable before get the whole armor from the raid. and the reward was to finally beat it at the end. indeed the gears make it easier to pass the previous stage of the raid, but the last part must be gears checked.

[KarstenS]

No, we should be gearing only to make it easier.

The deavs already stated, that they have a gear progression in mind when designing the new raid content.

After the "disaster" of FCoB, they also stated, that they will put more focus to prevent bypassing this gear progression by craftet+melded gear again.