Please do not turn off your chat in dungeons

[seekified]

The only problem with this is that many fights have variations on strategies. For example, in A4 some parties have the healers take the orbs in phase 1, some some have the OT do it, and I've seen a few DPS run for them too. Not knowing which strat you're using can cause wipes even if you do know what you're doing. Too many people going for the orbs all at once leads to deaths just as surely as not enough people going for them. I know I frequently queue up for duties in a premade of 5-7 people (all in voice chat), so we expect that the 1-3 pugs will at least have the decency to listen to the strategy the rest of us are using.

Indeed. T9 was a bitch for this - there's so many variations of all the mechanics in there and when I started PFing it I found that some people had very different approaches to stuff compared to my static. But yeah, that's raiding - in dungeons this is less of an issue but annoying all the same.

[Ashkendor]

Indeed. T9 was a bitch for this - there's so many variations of all the mechanics in there and when I started PFing it I found that some people had very different approaches to stuff compared to my static. But yeah, that's raiding - in dungeons this is less of an issue but annoying all the same.

Yeahhhhhh, we ran into awful problems with divebombs when we started PF'ing T9 too. We learned how to mark divebombs in a way that leaves the waymarks on the field (you end up with calls like "Right of A/Left of A"), but most of the pugs we picked up expected A/B to be marked on each divebomb. We didn't have anyone that had ever marked them that way, and trying to explain the method we learned ended up disastrous a few times when they just didn't get where they were supposed to go to make it work. More than once it ended with someone telling us that we didn't know what we were doing and ragequitting over a difference in strat. :/

[seekified]

Yeahhhhhh, we ran into awful problems with divebombs when we started PF'ing T9 too. We learned how to mark divebombs in a way that leaves the waymarks on the field (you end up with calls like "Right of A/Left of A"), but most of the pugs we picked up expected A/B to be marked on each divebomb. We didn't have anyone that had ever marked them that way, and trying to explain the method we learned ended up disastrous a few times when they just didn't get where they were supposed to go to make it work. More than once it ended with someone telling us that we didn't know what we were doing and ragequitting over a difference in strat. :/

Same here, in my static we used this and just marked A at 2, B at 4 and C at 7 o clock and had 10 o clock as the permanent second divebomb area because at this point we all knew where to stand for Golems and Heavensfall anyway. Then I checked dragon positions and called out which marker to use. Less marking and more reacting for everyone!

... Needless to say the pugs didn't like this.