Motion: Twin Adder perma Echo boost at Aether server

[Evangela]

Adders on Aether were bad since 2.X.

[Stormrider]

So this came up in discussion amongst a few flames. In pug groups you regularly see people who are higher rank quality players. When you get enough of them the match may become really lopsided in their favor. While I am not suggesting any of these players carry the team, it is beneficial to have some anchoring players. We have no chat going on, we did not place dead bodies in the adder team so we would get more kills, but we might have more players with multiple beneficial classes.

Now here is the point for adders. If we agree that each team may have only so many quality players. If all the quality players que together that leaves none left for pugs. Which means that as you see this week we have some adders with decent win totals and win %. Also from a quick glance 80 of the top 100 are from the same three servers.

I am a little jealous saw a couple matches where they were able to que in 3 full parties. Not sure what the wait time was like. Also Blubbers stop killing the flame sch in blue. Some garish yellow pld kept targeting me one match. Let the flames healers heal freely

[Atreus]

Everyone has different experiences, matches, and plays at different times. No GC is always bad. Some players like to take those matters into their own hands.

[Liselsia]

Everyone has different experiences, matches, and plays at different times. No GC is always bad. Some players like to take those matters into their own hands.

I defintely feel a lot of recent sentiment is hyperbolic. Sure at beginning of 3.0 Adders was in the dog house. But as the serious pvp got ranked they wanted about a month. Now all three GC are mostly filled with people wanting tomes. It basically a toss up now. If you play enough games, your more or less guarantee to win 30% of the time. I feel a lot of the complaints are either people who hasnt pvp in several weeks to experience the shift in skill, or play like one match a day then extrapolate their conclusions from there.

[Amiaze]

I'm Malestrom on the Aether data center, and I honestly have to say that I normally see the Adders performing quite well no matter the time of day. I vividly remember Malestrom giving the Adders flak for having 0 points during one match, and I just knew they were going to bend us over the table next go around.

And they did. Mercilessly. I see them win more than anyone else.

As for Maelstrom...Faelstrom by day, Maelstrong by night. At least, in my experience.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I'm Malestrom on the Aether data center, and I honestly have to say that I normally see the Adders performing quite well no matter the time of day. I vividly remember Malestrom giving the Adders flak for having 0 points during one match, and I just knew they were going to bend us over the table next go around.

And they did. Mercilessly. I see them win more than anyone else.

As for Maelstrom...Faelstrom by day, Maelstrong by night. At least, in my experience.

It is always a good idea to look at the server make up of the parties when Adders are doing well/zerged one team into the ground. This week Gilgamesh and Adamantoise both had very active premade parties.

On Tuesday Flames suffered a long stream of losses and Mael in many cases won because the Adder premades were zerging us and any tomeliths that spawned in our area leaving Mael to claim any tomeliths that spawned in both the Mael and the Adder areas.

In one case this week we were at nearly 750 (300 ahead of both other GCs) when Adders zerged up to our spawn and beat us down to third place allowing Mael to win. When I checked the Adder roster I was unsurprised to find that party A was from Gilgamesh, B was from Adamantoise and C was 5 Adamantoise 1 Gilgamesh and 2 from other servers.

[Madepossible]

Adders are purety good on Primal, but I don't really see the whole point of OP. If SE would ''echo boost'' adders in his datacenter, it would be unfair to mael and flames. If he really doesn't like Adders, you have the option to switch to Mael or Flames but OP can keep on trending world wide, waste of time though! :3

[Selli]

I'm in Maelstorm. I did 20 Seal Rock matches last week. All 20 were in 3rd place. You win some, you lose some; just the way it goes.

[Zholi]

Maelstrom is far worse. Just look at the PVP standings. It's 95% Flames, 5% Adders, 0% Maelstrom. The numbers don't lie.

[TriksteR]

Adders are just a punchbag they need to start with 300 points ahead