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  1. #11
    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Longsun Zhao
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    No it's not. How many Okeanis you think I get in an hour from my retainer? 10 I think...
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  2. #12
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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    It's still far better than it was before, where GSM goblin jigs were giving the same number of blue scrips as a BSM weapon.

    It surprises me that someone looked over this stuff and thought it was balanced.
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  3. #13
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    blueruckus's Avatar
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    Jin Razuo
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    Coeurl
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    Yeah. But look at Deep Fried Okeanis. I need 45 of these, and 3 pieces of Okeanis meat per one... That's 135 items. That's 13 and a half hours of retainer gathering or god knows how long me doing it myself. That's without other ingredients.
    Okeanis is not a master book recipe. That's the trade-off with CUL, unfortunately.
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  4. #14
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    It's still far better than it was before, where GSM goblin jigs were giving the same number of blue scrips as a BSM weapon.

    It surprises me that someone looked over this stuff and thought it was balanced.
    It takes 57 adamantite nuggets to cap red scrips with GSM if you get the jig. 57 collectible item crafts. Im not sure how its an improvement when one class gets shafted. I'm not sure how they thought nerfing some class's turn ins would help anyone.
    Anyone with a choice will go for the carpenter/alchemist etc turn ins anyway. Blacksmithing isnt going to be a favored pick as long as it takes time gated resources.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 08-18-2015 at 05:18 AM.

  5. #15
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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    No it's not. How many Okeanis you think I get in an hour from my retainer? 10 I think...
    You can go kill Okaenis yourself to hunt for tails. You can't even get adamantite ores from retainers.
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    Yumi Umi
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Aurum regis plainisphere op
    Especially how the Mb is saturated with aurum regis sand lol.
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  7. #17
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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
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    It's still an improvement over scrip returns taking only the recipe level into consideration while completely ignoring the fact that a level 57 GSM recipe takes significantly less time and resources to craft than a level 57 BSM recipe, which is exactly how it was designed prior to the hot fix.

    I'm not saying it's perfect at the moment, but the way it was before this hot fix was so asinine that I question whether a human actually looked it over. It feels like I'm playing on a PTR.

    Also just going off of the current red scrip turn in. GSM is Chrysolite Ring of Aiming and BSM is Adamantite MCH weapon. Pretty much any BSM or ARM recipe is stupidly expensive to make because of adamantite.
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    Last edited by Sibyll; 08-18-2015 at 06:55 AM.

  8. 08-18-2015 06:54 AM
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    I'm dumb

  9. #18
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    It's still an improvement over scrip returns taking only the recipe level into consideration while completely ignoring the fact that a level 57 GSM recipe takes significantly less time and resources to craft than a level 57 BSM recipe, which is exactly how it was designed prior to the hot fix.

    I'm not saying it's perfect at the moment, but the way it was before this hot fix was so asinine that I question whether a human actually looked it over. It feels like I'm playing on a PTR.
    I agree with that, but this isnt much better. Red scrips turn ins literally got + 30% on everything, with one or two adjustments here and there.
    Their additional adjustments completely ignored the fact that you need to make them into a collectible which takes time.

    But the reason its screwed up to begin with is the whole unspoiled nodes and hidden the did.

    With the whole crafting/gathering deal now, and after being stuck with my airship (I was a forerunner, now im a whole 9 sectors behind) for weeks...(1 sector in 4 weeks time)
    I'm honestly convinced they just dont really give a damn.
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  10. #19
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    I'm fairly insulted by the amount of time its taking. I'm a software developer and the changes needed to fix the system vary from trivial to very simple item additions or updates. I assume they are dragging their feet because they want the solution to not create other problems... meanwhile they are loosing crafter's subscriptions.
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  11. #20
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    Rath's Avatar
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    Jagged Phoenix
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    Coeurl
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    I'm fairly insulted by the amount of time its taking. I'm a software developer and the changes needed to fix the system vary from trivial to very simple item additions or updates. I assume they are dragging their feet because they want the solution to not create other problems... meanwhile they are loosing crafter's subscriptions.
    Yet to see any of my competition stop playing or crafting.

    Quite to the contrary actually. They are buying ooids pretty steadily this week.
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