Since when was it the Tanks job to explain fights?

[Violyre]

I typically end up playing things as a healer first, then a tank so that I can explain basics (You did explain it, so my point is moot in comparison. :P), but I agree, tanks are not your personal Prima Strategy Guide. If no one asks questions when they don't understand, the blame is on said person(s). I know some people can only learn by doing (me being one of those), but I'm sure you could tell them "a snare looks like X and are located at Y." Not that hard people!

Sadly though, the tank is the first target when things go wrong, no matter whose fault it is. And that's the story of how Ifrit HM requires i110 gear.

Stop playing as a tank if you feel the general consensus is for the tank to know the dungeon. So many people use this section as a wahh Q_Q me section these days.

Well that is uncalled for. He made a statement because he needed to vent.

[Nyerieri]

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The general consensus in the game is that the tank IS responsible for knowing the entire dungeon. If you don't like it, move onto another job. Also a lot of facts were left out of this thread to give an accurate assessment. He never explained what the other tank was doing (was he new? never said anything?) Steps of faith requires 1 tank, so the other could of been doing snares or something.

Only time personally I've seen Steps of Faith failed was before they nerfed it, and I can say proudly that I cleared it before the nerfs.

[Violyre]

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Hmm, no, I've never encountered this. I've never been attacked for not knowing a fight as a tank. I had a party earlier with a friendly DRG that helped explain stuff that I was not quite remembering completely. Really, ANYONE can explain. I've explained it as a healer, I've explained it as a DPS. Someone generally knows. And can it be 100% expected that the tank know everything their first time? Because trust me, my tank classes would still be at 16. Just because I can get a feel doesn't mean I know everything.

Edit: I should note that I would not expect that of high-end raids. You best know the fight then. I don't raid as a tank. Ever. But everyone should know what they're doing beforehand, yes?

[Nyerieri]

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You attack me on a singular issue of me saying I beat the Steps of Faith before the nerfs (I'll even add, since you wanted to go here, it was within a few hours of servers being up). At this point, everyone should know what they are doing during that fight.

You seem to also ignore the fact the OP left out some vitally important info that would allow one to give a more accurate assessment of this thread.

Now we are off subject when it comes to high end raids, but generally yes the consensus is that you should have at least watched a video (anyone remember coils?!). I think the OP should post the vitally important info he is missing in his original post. I still have little sympathy because waaah I don't want to explain the fight in a more meaningful way then do this, do this, do this, pull. There is plenty of time to explain that fight for whoever may not know.

[MatthiasS]

You seem to also ignore the fact the OP left out some vitally important info that would allow one to give a more accurate assessment of this thread.

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I gave a quick once over, and the only question I noted you asking about the other tank. He was a silent, level-synced Dark Knight. What else would you like to know?

My issue isn't "someone asked for help" my issue is I caught crap for not explaining to someones liking. As a tank, it I do not feel it is my job to explain everything. I WILL IF I CAN. But if someone doesn't think my explanation is good enough, why would they not offer their own, or correct my error, rather then tell me to "Explain it right because you are the tank"? I like to tank. I am not great at explaining content. So what?

[Violyre]

You attack me on a singular issue of me saying I beat the Steps of Faith before the nerfs (I'll even add, since you wanted to go here, it was within a few hours of servers being up).

I apologize for that. I came in here not long after long drawn out Keeper of the Lake where one DPS refused to LB and the other didn't listen at all. One a quarter hours, six wipes to the final boss. Anyone would be pissy. But that doesn't excuse me for an uncalled for comment. Irony since an earlier post pointed out another uncalled for comment.

(Don't ask me why I stayed in there...I have no idea.)

TBH, it should be up to any player to read a guide or watch a video of the dungeon first to see what they are up against. Just blindly que'ing for something you just unlocked right away without taking the time to watch a little video or guide is wasting everybody else's time because they have to sit there and type everything out about the fights, etc, just for you, because you were lazy.

I would hate to be the first people in there then.

Honestly, while I do generally ask my FC if there's any advice they can give me prior to queuing up, I can't learn myself via other means. Videos are worthless to me, and guides are just long words. If I see something, I can adapt to learn how to avoid it fairly quick.

Though I still loathe getting Steps of Faith in my roulette. I've not been able to manage that one as tank yet.