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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreameR7g View Post
    Again, comparing relics to houses? Personal ownership as opposed to public ownership? God, you're a moron. And if you ever expect a game to stay the same in this era of patches and hotfixes, you're insane. Of course, they never told that to any owner. They never expected people to be so... well.. greedy and petty. Now they need to police the system they created because people can't control themselves.
    Houses should be personal ownership, that they are not, is what needs solving, supporting decay, will keep houses public, thus, the problem will continue.
    Besides, when they get bought, the become a personal ownership too. They never expected people to be greedy and petty? so any house owner is greedy and petty, ok. Then, im guessing you are not going to get a house then?

    You people are the only ones being greedy and petty, demanding other players to lose their stuff just so you have a minimal chance to get what they had. Cause you seem not to get what will change with the decay... Ill give you a hint, is very close to nothing.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
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    You can argue houses should be personal ownership and tied to the account but the fact is: They are not. They are public ownership, tied to the server thus SE can kick out inactivity if they so choose. As it so happens, they are planning exactly that.

    And I love how you then twist my words and try to point out that I say all house owners are greedy and petty. No, just the ones who have multiple houses and keep them on ice just to flip them and make a profit or INTENTIONALLY keep them out of the hands of others. (As you've threatened to do).

    As far as me getting a house, I actually have no interest in owning one.
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  3. #113
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    Then you are just trolling. GG to you good sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Then you are just trolling. GG to you good sir.
    Good day to you as well. You can claim I was trolling but I believe I just out-debated you.
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  5. #115
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    List of reasons to not support decay:

    -Players should be allowed to unsub without being take anything from them.
    -Forces house owners to sub or feel like they are going to lose something they worked hard to get.
    -The problem should be solved by SE, not by players being punished.
    -The decay will not solve the housing aviability problem, everything will return as it is now in just a few days after implemented.
    -Gives SE an excuse to never solve the issue and see proper upgrades as true instanced personal housing, only added wards each 2 years or so.
    -Will hurt house owners since server problem will not be adressed, very needed QoL solutions will be delayed cause of this (the much needed item limit increase on houses for example)
    -House owners never were said they will have their houses taken away. (this is very important)

    The decay will free just a handful of houses, after that they will get bought in a breeze by active players, and in a week or month depending on server or ward, we will be just at where we begin. Only now, all house owners feeling presured to sub and most of the population out of the housing system and SE very happy to see that they "did as community asked" and that not further fixing is needed.

    FIXES NOTHING
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreyVoreas93 View Post
    Why quit then?? Seriously i do not understand some of you arguing about how it should be "yours" forever!!! Point blank if you are not paying to play the game like the rest of us you should not keeping things like this. If you quit paying your mortgage on your home in RL believe it or not but the bank will ACTUALLY tank the home back....shouldn't be any diferent on here. If your not paying your sub....because you own NOTHING in this game SE does...then it should be taken back.

    And if they are not going to fix the inventory system you all need to let go of the fantasy that the housing system will be done correctly. FFXIV: Entitledward is wat this should have been called.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Are you really that selfish? if you quit the game, that means you do not intend to play it. you mean you are going to pay a sub fee just to keep your house that you will never use?

    I am legit curious as to what goal you had for that kind of plan.
    Because I might come back to the game one day, and 15 bucks every 6 month is nothing to me.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnSolaria View Post
    Because I might come back to the game one day, and 15 bucks every 6 month is nothing to me.
    And works as a very good protest against this sorry excuse of a solution.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
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    1. If you unsub from the game, you are no longer playing the game. If you have any public resources, you deserve to lose them as you aren't even using them anymore.

    2. If you feel like you are forced to subscribe to a GAME, you are not having fun and thus should not be playing.

    3. Players who feel punished by this type of system want everything to belong to them and stay that way. With public resources, this is illogical and also immoral.

    4. This is a prediction, not actual fact.

    5. If you don't fix problems, they drain you of potential revenue. SE would be complete fools not to fix any problems or errors in their systems as they would lose money over it.

    6. You needed everything spelled out for you? You didn't realize the system was limited as soon as they implemented it? Also, plans change, things are modified. If you don't like it, don't support the game anymore. You vote with your dollar, broski.

    Again, if you are feeling pressured to play a video game, don't play it. That's a terrible mentality to have. Also, if you aren't subscribed, in my view, you don't deserve access to the resources gated behind a pay wall. SE isn't doing this out of the kindness of their heart. They are developing and sustaining this game to make MONEY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    And works as a very good protest against this sorry excuse of a solution.
    yeah keep giving them money, that will show em how to listen.

    Look I agree the housing decay is a silly bandaid fix and not an acceptable solution but your being overly agressive and threatening to punish other players (Not SE by denying them your money) for what Square Enix decides to do.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    yeah keep giving them money, that will show em how to listen.

    Look I agree the housing decay is a silly bandaid fix and not an acceptable solution but your being overly agressive and threatening to punish other players (Not SE by denying them your money) for what Square Enix decides to do.
    Actually, that won`t be needed, when reality strikes, and oh god, how many times we have called it since launch. It will be fun to see this very same thread open in less than a week after this gets implemented cause people can`t get houses. Will be fantastic.

    As i said, it depends on the timer, if is less than 6 months i wouldn`t do it, exact reason you state, will give em money, now, 15 USD each six months to just prove how terrible their idea is, it`s cheap.
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