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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Are you really that selfish? if you quit the game, that means you do not intend to play it. you mean you are going to pay a sub fee just to keep your house that you will never use?

    I am legit curious as to what goal you had for that kind of plan.
    Just to mess selfish people that think is ok for SE to hurt their players (subed or not) instead of solving the issue.

    If the decay timer is +6 months, ill probably do the same, specially considering mine is one of the best located houses on the goblet, and, if this measure really comes to life, ill probably buy another 5 houses just to block anyone who ever supported this.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Just to mess selfish people that think is ok for SE to hurt their players (subed or not) instead of solving the issue.

    If the decay timer is +6 months, ill probably do the same, specially considering mine is one of the best located houses on the goblet, and, if this measure really comes to life, ill probably buy another 5 houses just to block anyone who ever supported this.
    Hypocrisy at it's finest! Punishing people for SE's policy
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Hypocrisy at it's finest! Punishing people for SE's policy
    I just want a real solution to this problem. Anyone who knows how SE deals with problems, knows that as soon as they implement the decay, you can say byebye to any future solution for years. Your gloriously solution of a decay timer will actually work for a week or so till the housing situations returns to what we have now and again, just a small portion of the playerbase will have access to housing.

    The time will pass, the timer will be less and less efective (that being generous and saying that the timer will be actually effective at its start.. which honestly i doubt) and that will be all. In 2 more years we will have these very same topics, and i wouldn`t be surprised to see people demanding a more strict decay system that punishes house owners even further just to not admit that SE isn`t doing its job.

    I want a true solution. I prefer to wait longer for an optimal solution (instanced personal housing comes to mind) that this sorry excuse of a measure that will serve to near nothing but the dreams of a few vocals on this topic who are starving for a chance (that many will miss, thats the funniest part of it all) of getting a house for their own interest. Anyone supporting the decay system doesn`t want a solution to the server problems of SE, just want a house right now. So, if SE will really listen to this kind of people, take it as my act of protest. As someone who likes housing, wants it to be aviable for everyone. I`ve helped a lot of my friends to get their houses, i can`t do it further cause there is no small plots anymore and i see many of them being really hurt for the sorry excuse that SE calls housing and servers, i want a solution for them, not just a countermeasure that won`t even work.
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  4. #104
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    3months? Ya'll just love effing over deployed military don't you?

    You know how long some deployments can go? And even if they keep the sub paid while physically unable to log in, you want them to lose it?

    Can't support that.

    As for one per account: no. One per server shared by all characters on it maybe.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
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    Part of the problem is inactive people holding the plots hostage and yet never returning to actually use what they have. (Banned players, those who've quit, etc.)

    Another part of the problem is allowing players to purchase multiple houses per account. It should be one house per account and that is it. Especially with a limited resource like the housing situation.

    Ultimately, I think a timer is a fine addition, although it does need to be short enough so those who are petty to hold houses hostage (I.E. inactive for 5 months, sub for 1 month to keep their house out of the hands of others) have to spend more cash to do so. After all, if you are inactive, what gives you the right to lay claim to anything which is limited?
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreameR7g View Post
    After all, if you are inactive, what gives you the right to lay claim to anything which is limited?
    The fact you already claimed it, and the fact that it shouldn`t be limited to begin with.
    Why should players be punished by a badly implemented system? This should happen, literally 0 times, and you are puting banned and players who quit on the same sack, which is just wrong.

    Supporting the decay, is supporting SE to not ever solve the housing problem. Keep going.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
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    That's pretty black and white of you but I'll bite.

    Just because you've claimed it for now doesn't mean you should be able to hold onto it forever. Again, that's petty because if you quit the game (or heaven forbid: Get banned), that is data taking up space and thus increasing the cost for SE, along with the fact that with a limited system like the housing system, you screw over those who actually want to be there. Pretty much, you're saying you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself. Petty.

    The housing system has *never* been a badly implemented system. It is merely limited. Now, you can debate whether it should have been a limited system or not. It doesn't mean badly implemented. It means its an idea you did not prefer.

    I put quitting players and banned players in the same category because they are INACTIVE. Doesn't matter what your reason is: You are still inactive, regardless.

    Also, I really love your "If you don't agree with me, you're against me" policy. Shortsighted and idiotic.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreameR7g View Post
    That's pretty black and white of you but I'll bite.

    Just because you've claimed it for now doesn't mean you should be able to hold onto it forever. Again, that's petty because if you quit the game (or heaven forbid: Get banned), that is data taking up space and thus increasing the cost for SE, along with the fact that with a limited system like the housing system, you screw over those who actually want to be there. Pretty much, you're saying you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself. Petty.

    The housing system has *never* been a badly implemented system. It is merely limited. Now, you can debate whether it should have been a limited system or not. It doesn't mean badly implemented. It means its an idea you did not prefer.

    I put quitting players and banned players in the same category because they are INACTIVE. Doesn't matter what your reason is: You are still inactive, regardless.

    Also, I really love your "If you don't agree with me, you're against me" policy. Shortsighted and idiotic.
    It`s not a badly implemented system when:Less than 2% of the server population can access to it at launch. It`s shared with guild housing. It`s terribly limited in options and functionality. Has continiusly growth into a bigger problem. But ok, not, it`s fine.

    About the the inactive players, please, take away all items from all accounts of inactive players, they also used limited resources.

    If you don`t agree with me, ok, that doesn`t change the fact that supporting the decay is support SE to not ever solve the housing problems, oh wait, limitations, in your world housing is just perfect, you just can`t access to it...

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    Another good reason to not implement the timer, is that there never was said to any owner right now, that they will have to face such a thing as an inactivity penalty for it, if i knew before hand that i will feel forced to pay a monthly sub just to keep something i would have not ever bought a personal house. Tell all relic Z owners that if they unsub for a fixed period of time, they will lose their Z, because inactivity. The same happens here.

    You people just want a house, not a solution.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
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    Hehe, you're cute. Less than 2% of the server population had access to it at launch because of the prices. That and those who've bought gil (and or had stored up gil from 1.0/crafting/etc) were able to buy multiple houses right from the get-go. Of course it isn't fine but it isn't the monster you claim it to be.

    The housing situation is a far more limited aspect than inventory can ever could be. You tried going to the absolute extreme to try to make a point. Logical Fallacy.

    Also, not agreeing with you does not mean I support SE is not fixing the errors of its systems. You try to pass it off as a fact but it is merely subjective, your opinion.

    Again, comparing relics to houses? Personal ownership as opposed to public ownership? God, you're a moron. And if you ever expect a game to stay the same in this era of patches and hotfixes, you're insane. Of course, they never told that to any owner. They never expected people to be so... well.. greedy and petty. Now they need to police the system they created because people can't control themselves.
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    Never expected people to be greedy? Nooooo! It's almost like what happened to Valve when they tried to introduce paid mods and insisted that people could police themselves!
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