Did Yoshi P messed up the relics Im trying to understand the meaning of this help me!

[Andevom]

Skizzle just keeps making complaint threads about there being nothing to do without even clearing Bismarck EX or Alex Normal. Probably better just to ignore him now.

Maybe it's because his FC rank name is "TROLOLOL Master".

[Mykll]

What you GOT from your investment was months of being at the top of the line; not an eternal place among the stars.

This, right here, is why I am against house transfers to Ishgard.

Anyroad, we must needs please look forward to it.

As long as there is a way to keep upgrading the relics, then I don't mind being behind until I get caught up. I just wish HW dungeons gave lights. But if there were never any updates to the line, then that entire line of the game may as well be erased, nobody would do it. Yeah, bust your butt for ilvl 80, 90, 100, 110, 115, etc. etc. weapons, or, just buy the ilvl 115 weapon right at level 50 in Heavensward.

As it is so few probably even do the relic armour quests at level 45 and 50, for the upgrades. I remember doing mine, putting the outfit on, see how it looks, and straight into the Armoire.

Just the nature of the game. Something can't be updated? Used for glamour. Something can be updated to remain remotely close to the best? Used as your gear set. Or for glamour when you DO get something slightly better.

Every game does this. Every game can make you spend a large amount of time to gain something, just to have it outdated.

"Did someone say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?"

End the end, it is worth your time to do it sooner so you can be among the top for a while, or do it later if it can be upgraded or it can be used for glamours.

[Jim_Berry]

1) Traditionally, an expansion to an MMO means that all the stuff you had becomes effectively useless.

Unless a FFXI move happens, where your old Relic weapons, Relic gear, and Artifact gear can be upgraded to high portions.

When your old gear goes from this:


to this:


...you'll always feel good about obtaining/keeping gear.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Jim_Berry: People from this new generation are so used to these free handouts and want new stuff constantly that it just ruins the gear you tried to earn. The idea of beeing able to upgrade old gear is what made old content valuable and replayable it also makes grinding rewarding etc. Sadly people here refuse to get it everytime we bring it up we are almost idiots who dont know anything.

[StrejdaTom]

Unless a FFXI move happens, where your old Relic weapons, Relic gear, and Artifact gear can be upgraded to high portions.

Shame that stuff like this will never happen here.
We will be probably able to skip a few dialogs as a reward for having ZETA and then end up in same grind we had to do before.
I am all about game being friendly to newcomers, but this game is scrapping all achievements faster than I have ever seen in any other MMO I have played.
Imagine the new relic being a bit stronger if you had ZETA when you started the Q. There would be enormous portion of rant on forums, mostly by people who don't even raid = who don't even have to min/max.

So the only thing you will have for playing this game for 5 years compared to someone who plays it 3 months is the amount of titles.
It might be enough for someone..

[Reynhart]

Jim_Berry: People from this new generation are so used to these free handouts and want new stuff constantly that it just ruins the gear you tried to earn. The idea of beeing able to upgrade old gear is what made old content valuable and replayable it also makes grinding rewarding etc. Sadly people here refuse to get it everytime we bring it up we are almost idiots who dont know anything.

Ok, seriously...what part of "irrelevant items now" did you not understand ?

Or, you're naive enough so that you think items in the first year of an MMO will always be useful ?

[Windklinge]

^As a Paladin main who had to stick with a single miserable 123123123 combo for about 2 years I'm just sitting here laughing at how you seem to think the level cap raise was unnecessary.

you can add new skills without rasing a level cap. take a look at dark age of camelot and other titles that never raised thier cap. they added new skills aswell. thats a very lame excuse you have for a level cap raise you got there. its just a excuse and not more.

the relic could be continued without level cap raise. of course at some point it would required a massiv nerf to let new players catch up. nothing wrong with letting new players catch up. but resetting endgame for the sake of resetting it without adding anything NEW to endgame progressen is unnecessary.

[Attarik]

Have you not noticed he's just trolling yet?

[Asierid]

you can add new skills without rasing a level cap. take a look at dark age of camelot and other titles that never raised thier cap. they added new skills aswell. thats a very lame excuse you have for a level cap raise you got there. its just a excuse and not more.

the relic could be continued without level cap raise. of course at some point it would required a massiv nerf to let new players catch up. nothing wrong with letting new players catch up. but resetting endgame for the sake of resetting it without adding anything NEW to endgame progressen is unnecessary.

Clearly we don't know the difference between horizontal and vertical progression. Yes. Let us reset the entire game because this guy on the forums like games from the year 2002 and piss off most of the player base. Thank god you're not part of marketing...

This isn't DaoC or XI. Different kind of game. Hate to break it to you and your naive friend here who seems to think oldschool relics need to be kept the way they are. You can go there for that sort of progression, shoo.

[Shuon]

I loved xi and the grind, but if xiv is anything near xi I wouldn't be playing it.

I used to have 8 hours a day to play xi; I work as a lawyer now and barely have 3 a week.

Xiv may piss many people off but for all us 'casuals' it's God-sent. After all this is a game - we wanna play it for fun not treat it as a second job.