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  1. #11
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    As other said, SCH should focus purely on DPS in P1. There is no damage going out that the other healer shouldn't be able to handle alone.

    My "tank buddy" tanks his Oppressor in Deliverance much of the time, but I still have opportunity to refresh DoTs at the least. 3k Missile, Resin Bomb, and Phaser casts are all good opportunities to gain a few GCDs of risk-free DPS.
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  2. #12
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    Parawill's Avatar
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    Spark Joy
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    As other said, SCH should focus purely on DPS in P1. There is no damage going out that the other healer shouldn't be able to handle alone.

    My "tank buddy" tanks his Oppressor in Deliverance much of the time, but I still have opportunity to refresh DoTs at the least. 3k Missile, Resin Bomb, and Phaser casts are all good opportunities to gain a few GCDs of risk-free DPS.
    ^^^ Absolutely agree.

    There's a lot of downtime in damage too! If you're using Eos to assist in healing though, I generally pop Whispering Dawn & Rouse during first Gunnery and third Gunnery so the WHM doesn't need to use Medica II. In the time I Scholar'd for my group's clear, the range of Whispering Dawn was enough to reach everyone excluding both tanks.
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  3. #13
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    IMO, if you are looking for extra DPS, you should be using Selene, not Eos.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    IMO, if you are looking for extra DPS, you should be using Selene, not Eos.
    For this one I'd say it depends on the party and on the healer.

    Selene has been my go-to fairy for most content for some time, but now that SCH personal DPS has spiked higher thanks to Broil serving as filler while being more than twice the potency of Ruin, I'm encountering situations where using an Illuminated+Roused WD will greatly increase my DPS uptime and overall numbers.

    I suppose the real question would be what sort of DPS increase we can reasonably expect Fey Wind to provide on average vs. what personal DPS increase we might expect from the SCH and possibly the co-healer in an encounter where Eos negates or severely mitigates the damage from certain mechanics that would otherwise force the healer to drop Cleric and patch up. I don't have numbers to support either option, but I'm curious to see what others are finding.
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  5. #15
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    Fair enough. I still see 3% atk sp on 8 people as better then Eos, but that is probably cos my WHM partner is pretty good at picking up the slack.

    Oh, and just wait til A2S, I'm currently pulling 1.2k DPS on SCH up until Wave 7, haha.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    Fair enough. I still see 3% atk sp on 8 people as better then Eos, but that is probably cos my WHM partner is pretty good at picking up the slack.

    Oh, and just wait til A2S, I'm currently pulling 1.2k DPS on SCH up until Wave 7, haha.
    Good point about your WHM partner. That could indeed make the difference if they are able to help cover your AoE healing and aren't benefiting as much from Whispering Dawn.

    In my group the WHM isn't operating much on my side of the fight, so I started using Eos to free up more of my GCDs for DPS and for shielding my Deliverance tank (I'm fine with him DPS-tanking, but it requires more support from me to keep him safe). Maybe it's time to bring Selene back in and see if overall DPS increases at all, or if my personal contribution with the HoT padding was greater.
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  7. #17
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    I personally use Selene before the split and change to Eos when 0.5 shows up.
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  8. #18
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    I personally use Selene before the split and change to Eos when 0.5 shows up.
    Yep this is what i have been doing as well, pushing to sub 59% hp before spilt seems to be needed for smooth run .
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  9. #19
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    Tide Coldwater
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 67
    As a sch, here is my take on a1s. I am 190ilv with hive weapon. I use Selene on sic while dpsing until I start healing where I swap to obey. Pre pull I Adlo spam the main tank until Crit and deploy to the party. I swap to cleric and pre cast shadow flare 3seconds before pull. I mind pot and start casting dots on oppressor. Entire phase 1 I'm keeping dots and flare up broiling in between. Be watchful for dots missing it's the pain in my ass, I find miasma and aero miss the most. Given how preys go I will drop cleric to adlo the prey usually if it is on a clothy or bars with b4b up. Back to dps until split and missiles come out at which point I have dotted .5 and refreshed dots on 1.0 I drop cleric and heal until after jumps. Part 2 coming
    EDIT: We reach about 57-60% usually in phase 1 before split.
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    Last edited by Tide; 08-16-2015 at 04:53 AM.

  10. #20
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    Tide Coldwater
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 67
    Part 2: 4 adds spawn followed by resins, raid damage happens and at this point while photon spasers are happening, its important to top off the raid. After lasers, raid damage happens, however leave the raid hurt and top off your tank while watching for prey. Swap to prey and heal them through 3-4 out of the 6 hits have them topped off/able to survive the remaining hits and get ready for tank buster, as a SCH this consists of virus on the Boss, top your tank off, usually I get a physick, lustrate if needed followed by an adlo, along with tank cds(usually heal the warrior) brings them to about 1/4-1/2 life. heal tanks, heal raid. At this point there is some raid damage along with moderate tank damage. For our group, depending on my MP/Aetherflow stacks, I have our WAR swap to deliverance to blow out some damage, I like to have at least 1 lustrate ready to hit him with, along with a couple of adlo for the royal font(Mini tank buster) part 3 coming
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