Is anyone else disappointed by the lack of Long Term Goals?

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

I'm surprised the white knights of this thread have not attacked you yet like they do me whenever I post similiar topics.
No one wants a new FFXI we want elements from FFXI try and combine vertical and horizontal progressions so the game can cater to both sides and not just casuals only.
Just use stuff from FFXI wich made it so good and enjoyable and learn from it. No need to take everything from WoW. The community just gets lazier because people know stuff gets nerfed eventually and everyone can have everything for half your effort but not at the start as you pretty much.


Strejdatom: check this out and you can see how the mentality of the new gamers are thats my exact topic about the relic beeing unnerfed and having something worth while and enjoyable and make you feel you earned your relic.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...his-help-me%21

Astral: What are you expecting from a 2.0 Reskin that I've stated and many others. If its not broke don't fix it and as long people are not complaining and dropping subs a change wont happen we will get spoonfed this.

[Welsper59]

I'm surprised the white knights of this thread have not attacked you yet like they do me whenever I post similiar topics.
No one wants a new FFXI we want elements from FFXI try and combine vertical and horizontal progressions so the game can cater to both sides and not just casuals only.
Just use stuff from FFXI wich made it so good and enjoyable and learn from it. No need to take everything from WoW. The community just gets lazier because people know stuff gets nerfed eventually and everyone can have everything for half your effort but not at the start as you pretty much.

I recall a post a year or so ago about wanting open world bosses and for dangerous zones exclusively for high level players. There were several people who suggested something akin to the FFXI Notorious Monsters and high level mobs that the game had, which would perfectly fit what was suggested. Some supporters of the want for the open world content shut down those ideas simply for the reason that it was FFXI and that these people who even mention XI should just go back to that "horrible" game lol. They're arguing for the same side but still meet hate. To put it lightly, people are really REALLY stupid when it comes to their own bias. This player base... 10/10, best community ever.

[Kazama]

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Sadly it's true. There is such a negative connotation to XI here and on Reddit. XI had flaws, lots of them, and even the most die hard XI players knew that. I don't think anyone from that community wants things like 2 hours waits for XP parties or 18 hour PW fights (which only like 1% of players even ever attempted). We want the depth of character progression and diversity of content that was available and we want some of the danger and unexpected situations XI brought about. Was it fun to die to an EP rabbit? No. Was it fun to narrowly survive to an EP rabbit? hell yes. There was a much much much greater sense of accomplishment in that game and that's what it's spirit was. Not just to see and experience the content but to triumph in adverse and dangerous situations, not throw your face at it over and over until you won. There is no gravity to anything in XIV you just spam it until you beat it.