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  1. #141
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    Saryn Storm
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    I'm sure there will be larger raids ahead during 3.x. While Alex doesn't impress with it's size it shows S-E is capable of balancing the fights for two mediums (normal and hard crowd)

    Gruul's and Mag's lair's weren't exactly massive either at its time (warcraft)
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  2. #142
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    Shadry Stone
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    I think the main problem is that savage doesn't *feel* like progression. I mean it's fun and all to work on tougher fights but it feels more like going over old ground than experiencing something new.
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  3. #143
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Isn't it more confusing that, story wise, the Sharlayans have yet to reclaim their city state even though it was important enough to erect a gigantic monument to Thaliak and the Final Fantasy equivalent of the Library of Alexandria? Seriously, a nation that automates golems, can turn normal animals into anthropomorphic foot soldiers, and imbue sentience into household items would allow goblins to claim their city? The reason for them leaving doesn't make any sense. The Garlean invasion force is separated from the Sharlayan city-state by hundreds of miles of dragon infested mountain range, and the people living their are arguably as well equipped for battle as the imperials even if they won't admit it.

    The order to leave the settlement would be overwhelmingly rejected by its residence, who saw fit to erect a monument in its honor and a library/university. Also, being that the Sharlayans are neutral, the Garleans wouldn't bother invading them until they've already conquered Eorzea from sea to shining sea, which would arguably take a hundred years or more. Also their ground force would have to move through the Dravinian Forelands. They literally had no reason to move anywhere! Even the 6th Umbral Era catastrophe doesn't really play into this because no one saw it coming.
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    Last edited by Fendred; 08-14-2015 at 02:24 AM.

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    Lore something something lore
    Lore is not important here until they can make something that isn't a lazy copy of what came before it. Once they figure out how to make fun, engaging content then they can go nuts with story and lore. So far they are failing in both aspects but gameplay is infinitely more important that who dunnit and why.
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  5. #145
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    Makado Kitase
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    The fights are gear gated for normal players and extremely challenging to complete sooner for the most hardcore. They really wanted the majority of people to have to spend probably at least two months getting gear before really progressing into A3 or A4. When you understand this you can tailor your groups experience to know if you should just hold off or keep beating your head against it. It's pretty damn tough!
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    (Sharlayan stuff here)
    You ought to get around to the Astrologian storyline sometime. It doesn't make the Sharlayan history completely sensible, but it sheds some light on it nonetheless.
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazama View Post
    Lore is not important here until they can make something that isn't a lazy copy of what came before it. Once they figure out how to make fun, engaging content then they can go nuts with story and lore. So far they are failing in both aspects but gameplay is infinitely more important that who dunnit and why.
    What a stupid comment. The story writers have nothing to do with designing boss mechanics and game functions.

    Lore is incredibly important for a lot of people and the bad storyline is one of the major reasons Alex is a bad raid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    The fights are gear gated for normal players and extremely challenging to complete sooner for the most hardcore. They really wanted the majority of people to have to spend probably at least two months getting gear before really progressing into A3 or A4. When you understand this you can tailor your groups experience to know if you should just hold off or keep beating your head against it. It's pretty damn tough!
    A1 and 2 savage are roughly balanced with esoteric weapons and a mix of law and alex gear in mind. It should only take 3 weeks for "normal" people to have the gear they need to beat them.
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    Last edited by MisterLucie; 08-14-2015 at 06:36 PM.

  8. #148
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazama View Post
    Lore is not important here until they can make something that isn't a lazy copy of what came before it. Once they figure out how to make fun, engaging content then they can go nuts with story and lore. So far they are failing in both aspects but gameplay is infinitely more important that who dunnit and why.
    Lore isn't important? Without lore the gameplay literally has no meaning, if we removed the lore Coil would be about nothing but a giant dragon that blows things up. There's a reason WoW reached 13 million subs during Wrath, and it was because of the importance of the characters in that expansion, such as Arthas. I loved almost everything about Alexander, except the story/lore.
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  9. #149
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    The fights are gear gated for normal players and extremely challenging to complete sooner for the most hardcore. They really wanted the majority of people to have to spend probably at least two months getting gear before really progressing into A3 or A4. When you understand this you can tailor your groups experience to know if you should just hold off or keep beating your head against it. It's pretty damn tough!
    Extremely challenging? Why? The most hardcore people cleared A1, A2 in day or two, A3 in three weeks (or sooner?).
    Many (by many I mean 4 I know on Ragnarok, so I believe there is more) mid-core statics (including mine) are now at A2 or even at A3 and it has been how long? 1 month?

    A3 is skill gated (in this case by skill I mean everyones ability to perform their job at max, especially DPS rotation). Please, don't try to find excuses. The reason lies withing the people, not the gate.

    2 days ago we had tank replacement for our static tank and the guy cleared A1s trough PF.. what gates? What beating heads against a wall?
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  10. #150
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    To be honest.... The Coil Areas are not big either. So people cant complain about that. The story yeah its somehow weaker. The difficulty ... well this is the first time that a Raid had been made Normal mode so everyone can experience Raiding and the story. What we know as Savage Alexander is an equivalent to Coils so just compare Savage with Coil.
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