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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    -Ra, -ga and -ja spells are already in the game in the form of tier II, III and IV, though. The localisation team just decided to use numbering system instead of letter suffixes.
    That is exactly the problem. It's a lore error. Fire II in lore is not an AOE. Blizzard II in lore is NOT an AOE.


    The game is sacrificing classic FF gameplay. Not just in the fact spells are named poorly, but the way they are used is poor design. It's too cookie cutter.


    FF is about flavor, excitement and unique play systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LathusWHM View Post
    That is exactly the problem. It's a lore error. Fire II in lore is not an AOE. Blizzard II in lore is NOT an AOE.


    The game is sacrificing classic FF gameplay. Not just in the fact spells are named poorly, but the way they are used is poor design. It's too cookie cutter.


    FF is about flavor, excitement and unique play systems.
    It's...actually not strictly a FF lore thing. I mean, looking back at older games and the same convention wasn't always followed. If I remember correctly, FF6, 7, possibly older translation of 4(?), used a numbering scheme. Didn't FF2 have some weird system where spell numbers went into double digits? Thunder has been called Bolt at times. It's almost like all of these games, over their several decade time span, have been translated by several different people! And most of the time they are just names anyway. "More powerful spells have a higher number or an -ara added at he end." For the record, Fire II -could- be AoE in some games (most spells could be single or multi-target in some games).

    And so what if they do follow this system, or they don't follow it? As long as there is some consistency to it, and as far as XIV is concerned, the system just seems to be "The next spell you learn along the way." Among nearly all the Final Fantasy games, XI is actually the outlier, with regards to spell names.

    XI had a -real- system and naming convention to keep it all in place (please keep in mind I only played until shortly before Adoulin was released, so anything really new I have no knowledge of). Normally named spells were your single target spells. -aga (which also had a numbering system!!!) were AoE, -aja were AoE -and- had some kind of debuff on the enemy.

    Also, while the All Holy FFXI is on topic; man, was BLM ever boring in that game. Did you really ever use more than 4 spells? You had 5 (!!) Thunder spells (and only used Thunder, because Stone did less damage (not equal , but of a different element, actually less!), but only cast one outside of leveling. All spells were like this, so the amount of useless and never cast spells was extremely high (I know there was some revamp to the magic system recently, but how long before that happened? 10-ish years?).

    Right now, in XIV, we use a fairly large majority of our skill set. Freeze, Blizzard 2, Thunder 2? Yeah, mostly not needed. But that's only 3 spells.

    Anyway, among the off topic hyperbole, the point that I am really trying to get across is that the localization team has stuck to a system, it works just as well as the other naming convention, so who really cares? If it ever does become a problem, I'm sure they can change it. Just look at Tri-disaster.

    It's also hard to have a "unique play system" that is the exact same as "classic FF gameplay." Most of the games have tried to branch out and do slightly different things with the battle system. This one is just a bit more fast paced and action-oriented than the other games. What really makes FF games are the story, themes, and characters within them. Not the names of the spells.
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