The disapointment that is Alexander

[Miscreant]

The only motivation for you, perhaps. Most people who do serious progression do it for the fun of it. The gear is just a nice perk that helps future clears be a little quicker.

And seriously? A couple weeks of grinding is enough to completely turn you off of the raid? Clearly you weren't that interested in savage to begin with if that's the case.

You put it perfectly, gear is a bonus...the fun of learning hard fights and learning to push your job is the real reason for raiding.

And if a couple of weeks of farming is nothing compared to weeks of wiping chasing the same kill.

[Magis]

The only motivation for you, perhaps. Most people who do serious progression do it for the fun of it. The gear is just a nice perk that helps future clears be a little quicker.

And seriously? A couple weeks of grinding is enough to completely turn you off of the raid? Clearly you weren't that interested in savage to begin with if that's the case.

Aren't you making the same generalizations as I am? From forum posts before, most people did serious progression in 2.0 to learn the Coil story line. Most people I ran through the coils cared not for the fights, but the story. Heck, my driving force for Coil was the story, I could care less about gear (except High Allagan, that set was amazingly awesome). Also don't make assumptions about me, you don't know anything. I cleared all the coils pre-HW, and half of 2nd/3rd coils pre-echo. I was damn hyped for Alexander Savage. But with the story already explained to me, the lack of WOW factor that Coil had, and the sameyness of A1, the motivation isn't there. A1 is just normal mode with a few twists. Resin bombs now drop a pool, yay just put it offside. 2 more adds... meh, it's the same mechanic. The only interesting thing I find as a dps is the "walk as one" mechanic for the launch/drop.

I hear A2 is more or less the same, and that A3/A4 changes. Maybe my opinion of it will change in those places, but currently I'm not dragging people by their heels into the raid like I was in 2.0.

Of course, those who couldn't clear or couldn't get a clear through the coils complained they couldn't see the story so SE gave normal mode. I get why they did it, but there goes my prime motivation, oh well. I'm still doing it cause hey, it's a challenge like you said, but I wondering how fast burn out will happen.

You put it perfectly, gear is a bonus...the fun of learning hard fights and learning to push your job is the real reason for raiding.

And if a couple of weeks of farming is nothing compared to weeks of wiping chasing the same kill.

I'd take months (which was actually the case in 2nd) to years of wipes to find out what was gonna happen next in the Coil. Everything in Savage has already been revealed though. Even the gear looks the same minus a visual effect.

[Blood-Aki]

I'd take months (which was actually the case in 2nd) to years of wipes to find out what was gonna happen next in the Coil. Everything in Savage has already been revealed though. Even the gear looks the same minus a visual effect.

If people are taking years wiping in..anything in this game it may be time to try a different approach, Or a new game entirely. Preferably one that requires very little thinking.