So are consoles holding back this game?

[Hyrist]

Um. No.

Consoles aren't holding back this game because they can make console specific software to acommodate for that.

More than anything, when it comes to development, server structure, and SE's incredible levels of data backup and redundancy is what's causing development to slow. 15 second backups of item files that read like character sheets is too much.

[fortuona]

i still play on ps3, heavensward runs better than i expected it to honestly. i understand people who want it dropped for improvements, but i have no plans of buying a ps4 or pc any time in the near future.

[Vinestra]

i still play on ps3, heavensward runs better than i expected it to honestly. i understand people who want it dropped for improvements, but i have no plans of buying a ps4 or pc any time in the near future.

Warning I'm fairly certain Yoshi mentioned that by 4.0 PS3 players will be dropped. Or just not designed for.

[Gilraen]

I played on the PS3 till about a week or two before they ended the free upgrade campaign because the PS4 FINALLY had a good game worth buying for (Bloodborne, long time From fan). Would I go back to the PS3... I've actually been considering it, the PS4 version is just a PC port complete with everything the PC version had to offer. Everything... (damnable 'physics'). Graphics has never been a selling point for me, I mean I played XI on a PS2 (and later PS3) until Adoulin and loved every moment of it. Not even kidding.

[Zari]

I played on the PS3 till about a week or two before they ended the free upgrade campaign because the PS4 FINALLY had a good game worth buying for (Bloodborne, long time From fan). Would I go back to the PS3... I've actually been considering it, the PS4 version is just a PC port complete with everything the PC version had to offer. Everything... (damnable 'physics'). Graphics has never been a selling point for me, I mean I played XI on a PS2 (and later PS3) until Adoulin and loved every moment of it. Not even kidding.

I see no logical reason to go back to the ps3 unless you plan to completely get rid of the ps4. It is pointless to go back to a version that doesnt run nearly as well and has plenty of problems. Not to mention the ps3 version IS being dropped, we just dont know when

[Kosmos992k]

Buy me a gaming rig then you can complain about consoles holding the game back all day long.

There is a reason I cannot afford a decent PC but can afford a PS4. I know its hard to wrap ones mind around that but don't hurt yourself.

No IMO PS4 isn't holding the game back, PS3 probably I hear a lot of complaints from ps3 users.

Except that PS2 is still supported in FFXI and I've not heard anyone whining about it holding the game back too much - hell there are legions of players complaining that FFXIV needs to do what FFXI does (not I). Compared to the PS2, the PS3 is a behemoth of a system. There are a few specific areas where the way the game is implemented on PS3 put restrictions on what SE can currently do in specific areas, but clearly zone size and graphical quality are not chief among them, or else PC and PS4 players would not have the more expansive zones and much improved visuals compared to PS3.

I still think PS3 will no longer be supported once FFXIV 4.0 arrives, but players of FFXIV 2.X/3.X should have no reason to fear, I doubt that PS3 players will simply be locked out of their game. It's more likely that they will be restricted to the 2.X/3.X areas and content, and PC/PS4/Mac (if they ever get that working right) will move on to 4.X and beyond.

I mean I played XI on a PS2 (and later PS3) until Adoulin and loved every moment of it. Not even kidding.

How? PS3 was never a supported platform for XI. The only way I can think of where that would work (maybe) would be to run it on one of the original phat PS3's with the PS2 chipset on the motherboard for compatibility - and those things ran hot, and burned themselves out after several years. I still have one that works, but it's retired pending a close check by a qualified engineer and a much improved thermal compound to secure the heat sink.

[Gilraen]

How? PS3 was never a supported platform for XI. The only way I can think of where that would work (maybe) would be to run it on one of the original phat PS3's with the PS2 chipset on the motherboard for compatibility - and those things ran hot, and burned themselves out after several years. I still have one that works, but it's retired pending a close check by a qualified engineer and a much improved thermal compound to secure the heat sink.

It IS an original run PS3, the 60g in fact. It's YLOD'd on me once already, years ago, but these things are a rare breed today so I sent it in to Sony and they refurbished it. Not for free, of course, but so worth every penny. And if it YLOD's on me again I'll send it in again. And again. The newer PS3s would be such a downgrade it's not even worth considering. Yes, the backwards compatibility is worth that much, especially considering they ended PS2 production years ago now.

[Kosmos992k]

It IS an original run PS3, the 60g in fact. It's YLOD'd on me once already, years ago, but these things are a rare breed today so I sent it in to Sony and they refurbished it. Not for free, of course, but so worth every penny. And if it YLOD's on me again I'll send it in again. And again. The newer PS3s would be such a downgrade it's not even worth considering. Yes, the backwards compatibility is worth that much, especially considering they ended PS2 production years ago now.

Sony still refurbs the original BC PS3s? Do you get the system you send them back, or a replacement?

[DawnSolaria]

But where do those textures load from? Yupe, hard disk.

This is loads of it. By this logic PC exclusive game with much better texture and same amount of load time must be performing magic on HHD. Console is worse at performance compared to PC is no news, if SE insist on keeping one version then console is very much holding PC back. (Visually, at least. One aspect I really wish they would improve upon.)

[Magis]

Except that PS2 is still supported in FFXI and I've not heard anyone whining about it holding the game back too much - hell there are legions of players complaining that FFXIV needs to do what FFXI does (not I). Compared to the PS2, the PS3 is a behemoth of a system. There are a few specific areas where the way the game is implemented on PS3 put restrictions on what SE can currently do in specific areas, but clearly zone size and graphical quality are not chief among them, or else PC and PS4 players would not have the more expansive zones and much improved visuals compared to PS3.

I remember everyone complaining that the game couldn't be upgraded cause it was held back by the PS2. Heck the "PS3 Limitations" is just an extension of the "PS2 Limitations" joke. Also you are comparing an MMO released near the launch of the PS2 vs an MMO released a couple of months before it's end. Heck, play FFXI on the PS2 right now, god damn does it chug (if it doesn't crash). Was playing it to see how the game fared a few months back.