SIGN if you Hate PVP GC Restriction & Want Change

[Sicno]

The fact that they haven't posted anything doesn't means they're not listening or that they're not paying attention to our feedback.

It's up to them to determine when the time is. Maybe they simply don't have anything to share at the moment. Perhaps there are technical hindrances that make this more difficult, and they don't want to promise anything now that they can't deliver on later.

Demanding that they respond and telling them what they need to do isn't really adding anything constructive to the conversation though.

But it's funny that reps pop up at totally random requests like "Add Terra's theme while riding the magitek armor" or "add a campfire minion". Those really got my attention and since then I've been thinking this:

Seems to me the reps are players too and they reply and pass feedback according mostly to their personal preferences for what they want changed/implemented into the game. So if something is not an issue for them personally or they're not interested in a request to add something they don't pass the message, so the devs don't know about it, so they don't act nor reply.

I would love to believe I'm wrong. Please, PLEASE do stuff to prove I'm wrong on this, reps.

[AnimazArk]

where do I sign? lol

[HReincarnate]

Hell yes!
Signed ;D

[Ibi]

But it's funny that reps pop up at totally random requests like "Add Terra's theme while riding the magitek armor" or "add a campfire minion".

Obviously I'm not a developer, so I can't say this with concrete certainty, but I suspect that changing the music that plays on a certain mount or adding a new minion is probably a much less nuanced decision on which get a yes/no answer from the Developers, so it's much easier for them to post a concrete answer in response.

Seems to me the reps are players too

Yes.

and they reply and pass feedback according mostly to their personal preferences for what they want changed/implemented into the game.

Not a chance.

I would love to believe I'm wrong. Please, PLEASE do stuff to prove I'm wrong on this, reps.

Here's the thing.

I think removing the PvP Restriction would be excellent for the popularity of PvP in FFXIV. Not being able to jump into Frontlines with any or all of my friends whenever I want to absolutely contributes to how much or how little I participate in that activity. I also think the lore-based reason for not making a change is nonsense and SE sticking to their guns based on that alone is a terrible decision.

However, I can also come up with multiple reasons just off the top of my head as to why SE can't just flip a switch tomorrow and abolish the restriction:

- Should restrictions be completely removed and people just get randomly assigned to red, blue, and yellow, or should it be some sort of mercenary system, where the DF tries to fill according to GC as much as possible then fill in the gaps with mercenaries?
- If it's the latter, how long does the DF wait while filling GC groups before taking mercenaries?
- If you can fill a 48-person Frontlines with GC groups or a 72-person Frontlines with mercenary groups, which is preferable?
- If someone gets a win as a mercenary, should they get achievement credit as though they'd won with their own GC, or should they get achievement credit based on the GC they helped assist to victory?

And so on and so forth.

Even if SE had already decided that the restriction has outlived its purpose, they'd need to determine how to answer those questions and, once they have the answers, whether it's feasible to implement them and, if they determine it is, how long it might take. It's not helpful for them or us if they respond to the thread to say that they're going to remove the restrictions if they have to come back in three months and say "Actually, we can't, sorry!"

There have been plenty of recent examples where SE have shown that they are listening to our feedback (Alexander Normal drops, Red Scrips, Favors), so it's probably worth giving them the benefit of the doubt. More to the point, it's a lot easier for them to review, collect, and pass on our feedback if every fifth post in the thread isn't "WE DEMAND RESPONSES IMMEDIATELY".

[Naunet]

- Should restrictions be completely removed and people just get randomly assigned to red, blue, and yellow, or should it be some sort of mercenary system, where the DF tries to fill according to GC as much as possible then fill in the gaps with mercenaries?
- If it's the latter, how long does the DF wait while filling GC groups before taking mercenaries?
- If you can fill a 48-person Frontlines with GC groups or a 72-person Frontlines with mercenary groups, which is preferable?
- If someone gets a win as a mercenary, should they get achievement credit as though they'd won with their own GC, or should they get achievement credit based on the GC they helped assist to victory?

Those really aren't that difficult of questions.

1. This is the only real decision. Either way works fine.
2. Simplest solution is it starts mercing people once a GC fills up.
3. If it's based off the second option from #1, then the 48 person GC group Frontline would be made first, and then another Frontline match would spin up with everyone else in the queue, following the same rules as #2.
4. Really this shouldn't even be a question. Yes, if you win you should get all the credit afforded to a winner, for whichever GC they are allied with. If they went with the decision to remove GC affiliation entirely from Frontlines, then a win would just be a general victory.

[Ibi]

Like I said, that was just a few examples I could come up with off the top of my head to illustrate the point. It was not an attempt to come up with a comprehensive list of all the possible things they may be considering.

[Vurtney]

I don't really understand why on earth PvP in this game has to be gated behind GC restrictions. What happened to accessibility that works so well for PvE?

Get in, fight, get out, points. Rinse and repeat. That's all it needs to be without any restrictions in a game that has no factions to begin with. It works for GW2 and Warcraft (or any other mmo)

PvP'ers don't give a damn about lore in battlegrounds. They do however care about accessibility and just having fun without wasting their time in queue.

[KoJenova]

Signed. It's just dumb and kills the que time

[GabrielK]

I don't pvp but I am all for this. This is one place where game-play over lore is more than acceptable.

[Elazu]

we NEED these restrictions removed.