So are consoles holding back this game?

[StrejdaTom]

This will also never happen because the problem isn't cross platform with the PC. Microsoft is fine with that given most PCs run Windows, also a Microsoft product. The problem is the Playstation. Microsoft refuses to be cross platform with anything other than PC. The only reason XI happened was because Microsoft was desperate for a foothold in the Japanese market at the time (it didn't work, by the way).

Yeah I have read about this some time ago and I was kinda facepalming hard..
They aren't probably confident enough about they XBone to let its owners play with PS owners. (I don't own any console so don't take this as a rant from PS owner please xD)

To be honest I always thought that it is crucial for console to have the highest amount of supported good games.

[White_Wolf_X]

Last gen is indeed holding it back some.

[VitalSuit]

but it be wrong of me to say cut off the ps3 players so it's all up to SE

IMO they should stop using a nearly 10 year old console then. I mean yeah there's still players on the PS3 but trying to balance (can't think of the damn term, it means to make it so most hardware can run it) it on all 3 platforms especially one that's 9 years old needs to stop.

[NinjaTaru72]

As a player who uses pc, has a roommate who's on ps3, and our other rl friend is ps4...ive seen the difference first hand between the 3. My computer can out load a ps4 half plugged in. But then again my pc is no push over.
But... I could shut my pc off, turn it back on, reload ffxiv, and run from one zone to another befor my roommates ps3 would load some zones. (this is exaggerated, but you get the picture)

Though we plan to get a ps4 around Christmas for her, we all know ps3 is limiting the game. It did well. But ps4 has now been out for a while. And dropped a bit in price. So hopefully a nice black Friday deal or something like that will pop up

[Bishop81]

Thanks. It sounds like the lower level APIs are doing similar things to what projects like Mantle attempt to achieve, except since PS4 is a fixed platform, it's much more closely tailored to the hardware in PS4

More like Mantle is trying to do what console APIs have done for ages.

Even so I believe the likes of Mantle and DX12 will only be a halfway point between pre-12 DX/OpenGL and console APIs.

PS: Consoles frequently let you go to a very low level. N64 and PS2 let you rewrite the microcode even.

[RyuDragnier]

I do agree that PS3 seems to hold back the game somewhat, but I've seen what happens if you put a SSD inside a PS3...the load times man, they become nonexistent almost. They could still do the next expansion with the PS3...but they'd probably make SSDs mandatory for that.

[Iagainsti]

If this was cpu only, that'd be lame. The game is so much more like a game with a ps4 controller. Mouse click and keyboard is weak, I'm glad I have dual analog and shoulder tab targeting, cross bar switches, the works. Being able to chill on the couch with my wireless controller and headset is a lot more fun than sitting at the desk, especially since Mac OS is clunky at the moment.

[Kosmos992k]

More like Mantle is trying to do what console APIs have done for ages.

Even so I believe the likes of Mantle and DX12 will only be a halfway point between pre-12 DX/OpenGL and console APIs.

PS: Consoles frequently let you go to a very low level. N64 and PS2 let you rewrite the microcode even.

I agree with you, I come from a time when developers worked at the binary level developing their games creating drivers for the specific platform that ran on the 'bare metal' so to speak. over time software started to abstract things further and further from the hardware to facilitate easy development, but of course also software bloat and horrible performance. Games have always been closer to the hardware, especially with consoles.

Perhaps I am showing my age, but I remember the old Atari systems using display list interrupts to re-write the data being sent to the screen more or less in flight to mix screen modes and access more colors than the screen memory should have allowed to be displayed. So, yeah, writing code at the hardware level will always be more efficient and produce better effects, so the closer you can get to the hardware the better. I'm pretty sure that similar techniques allowed PS2 to display GT4 in 1080i on the original phat PS2....

Either way, it always makes me cringe when I see people touting the latest DirectX release when low level drivers and APIs on the same hardware will always offer better performance, and as you say console have always worked at a lower level than PC software. Though in recent years, games have become so damned large, that many devs are leanig more on the SDKs and what they provide rather than venturing too close to the low level APIs. This though is why I expect that the PS4 (and XboxOne) will have longer lives and retain more relevance than equivalently specified PCs.

[SakuraMidori]

IMO they should stop using a nearly 10 year old console then. I mean yeah there's still players on the PS3 but trying to balance (can't think of the damn term, it means to make it so most hardware can run it) it on all 3 platforms especially one that's 9 years old needs to stop.

Hey i agree but i just don't wanna be the one telling ps3 users time to pack up your crap and move on :P everyone knows the ps3 is out of date. But trying to convince ppl to buy a ps4 for 400$ or ok pc for about the same is not so easy. After i got my ps4 and started up ff my mind was blown on how much i was missing and how much lag was gone after that my ps3 took a dirt nap but. Most ppl i konw always say ps4 has no games bla bla so it's hard to get ppl to move on

[Kosmos992k]

Hey i agree but i just don't wanna be the one telling ps3 users time to pack up your crap and move on :P everyone knows the ps3 is out of date. But trying to convince ppl to buy a ps4 for 400$ or ok pc for about the same is not so easy. After i got my ps4 and started up ff my mind was blown on how much i was missing and how much lag was gone after that my ps3 took a dirt nap but. Most ppl i konw always say ps4 has no games bla bla so it's hard to get ppl to move on

By the time FFXIV 4.0 releases, the PS4 will be less expensive and have a 'slim' model of some kind. By then, SE will have more than met their commitment to the PS3 and I would anticipate it (PS3) being dropped at that time.