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  1. #91
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    I agree on the old gen consoles holding back the game. This issue is in games like Destiny too, can't do this because the resources of the old gen ps3 etc. Comes up allot in a few dev discussions, we want to to-do this but we dont know how to get it into the game because of the resource limitations of the old gen consoles / pc's/ MACS etc.
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  2. #92
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    If this game were only on PC, I wouldn't subscribe. I just can't navigate using a keyboard. I'm from the controller generation
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solene View Post
    wut
    What does performance, QoL updates (like more markers), and higher graphic fidelity have to do with raiding? What are you even on about?

    Consoles hold back the game because they can't be upgraded as hardware get's better over time. In fact, they are already outdated. The gfx card in a PS4 or Xbone is the same one in my pc.... that I bought 2 years ago. That's two generations behind, maybe three.

    Regardless, people shouldn't worry about the PS4 for now. It's mainly the PS3 that holds the game back, a console with hardware from 2007! This is 2 years away from being a decade old system! ARR should have never been released on a system that was being replace 2-3 months later.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    If this game were only on PC, I wouldn't subscribe. I just can't navigate using a keyboard. I'm from the controller generation
    lol! all good man, sync ps4 controller to pc via bluetooth or usb, or buy xbone controller works to
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  5. #95
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    Lmao imo what content besides raiding will ppl do for a long time that requires super awesome tech to do stuff.
    Unless there's going to be swimming involved, i really cant see much content that'll be developed that will require top notch pcs.
    Its already gotten to the point where too much stuff in an 8 man raid gets too messy. Just feels like a fate.

    But yeah they need to really drop ps3 support by 4.0.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Lmao imo what content besides raiding will ppl do for a long time that requires super awesome tech to do stuff.
    Unless there's going to be swimming involved, i really cant see much content that'll be developed that will require top notch pcs.
    Its already gotten to the point where too much stuff in an 8 man raid gets too messy. Just feels like a fate.

    But yeah they need to really drop ps3 support by 4.0.
    The thing is PS3 isn't as bad as everyone makes out, I killed Titan Ex and T5 on mine back in the day (play PC now), and a member of my FC is a PS3 player who is working on A3 Savage at the moment, which is probably further into progression than half the PC players who are complaining about PS3 limitations in this thread. I agree that PS3 support needs to go next expansion, but it's fine for now.
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  7. #97
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    The PS3's limitations aren't so much about framerate and combat as it is about inventory management and the amount of information that the HUD can display at any given time. Yoshi has stated time and time again that things like party TP bars, storage chests and the retainer system are limited by the amount of memory they consume when used, as well as network/server stress. The PS3 is likely behind the memory complaints at the very least.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaste View Post
    No they demand people to be on PC because its more stable during fights with many things happening on the screen, no input lag and easier to communicate via typing if need be, have you ever tried to direct people with text on console? No, cause it doesn't happen. Thats what Ive seen anyway, people who don't communicate in pugs or in some hunts are generally ones on console, and lets not forget how easy it is to use a keyboard for MMO's...or most of them anyway.
    You've clearly never played on a PS4 if you think there's input lag or any issue with a lot happening on screen. And if you're raiding, you're using voice chat. If people are demanding you play on PC, it's because they're ignorant and are trying to raise their low self esteem by trying to act superior for their choice of gaming machine. If you see people not communicating, they might not have a keyboard, but that's their fault.

    It's also important to remember that MMOs on consoles are a fairly new thing. The playerbase for MMOs is mostly PC, so a good number of people playing on consoles are new to the genre as well, which means they might not be so accustomed to the whole communication thing in their games. But there's plenty of PS4 players who communicate no problem and raid at a high level (myself included).
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  9. #99
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    My PS4 run this better than many of my PC user friends. Most people who doesn't use chat is cause they don't want to, easy as that cause PS4 can easily read every keyboard.

    To the topic, PS4 doesn't have DirectX11 so they didn't implement it or similar graphic effects through other means.

    Consoles holding back is a lie and an easy excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greven View Post
    My PS4 run this better than many of my PC user friends. Most people who doesn't use chat is cause they don't want to, easy as that cause PS4 can easily read every keyboard.

    To the topic, PS4 doesn't have DirectX11 so they didn't implement it or similar graphic effects through other means.

    Consoles holding back is a lie and an easy excuse.
    Ps4 is fine. It's Ps3 that is at it's limit. I played a little bit on ps3 and the game looked like it was running at 15 fps in unpopulated areas. Just horrible.
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