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  1. #151
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    LordTiberiusRex's Avatar
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    F'cahnah Yohko
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    Mateus
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    Sorry for a delay y'all. My secret project is done, so I can unveil my next update to bring the others to the Ninja.

    09/08/15: "They've gone to Plaid!" Update: The GDoc guide is converted into a wordpress-based website! I'm leaving the GDoc version up for one week before I revoke the shareable link. The Wordpress site has a search function, archives, and is easily accessible from any device you own. Another way to put it: "For the Ninja on the go." Additionally, based on a mechanics test I've recently completed (See "DMG Resistance Test"), I re-wrote a few equations in the OP. BiS Loadouts I'm leaving unchanged for now because I do not have all Savage Accuracy caps. If this changes before my next weekly or bi-weekly update, I will hotfix it in. Categories previously under "Rotations" I've moved under "General Tips, Tricks, and Extras."

    Here is the website: https://leggerlessxiv.wordpress.com/
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  2. #152
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordTiberiusRex View Post
    Wordpress Document
    Hooh? Neat stuff, but I still can't believe how little people think about Hide :|

    Hide is a neat skill, you know? True, it can't be used in battle and for boss battles its underwelming but, what about the rest?!
    Take this tip: Hide can only be used while you yourself aren't in battle. But this doesn't mean that if a party member engaged already you yourself will also be engaged.

    If your enemy list is clear, you are not in battle, so that means you CAN hide so long you don't hit anything or are seen by anything.
    Be a true Ninja and use Trick Attack on as many mobs as you can in all the pulls done in dungeons!!


    Examples:
    - Tank pulls 5 monsters and you know one is stronger than the others, Hide while running and TA that one big target, now you can use Ninjutsu for something else!!

    - Tank only pulled 3 monsters and TA was on Cooldown, so of course no Hide start, but we know NIN AoE sucks and maybe 3 monsters aren't worth the problem. Limit yourself to single target only one monster until you down it, then wait around 3~5 seconds and Hide will enable since your enemy list will be clear. Now Hide and do your Ninja magic~♪

    - You are doing Hunts and want to have a head start, when the pull happens for sure you will not be the priority target. Hide and TA its arse >:U!!!

    - It seems Duality isn't affected by DE, so you might as well: Hide > TA > SE(BfB/pot) > GS(Dual) > AE(IR) > SE(DwD) > SF(Rai/shu) or whatever else you prefer.

    - At the "Aethero-whatever current Allagan Extreme dungeon" there is a wave of mobs that includes a Chimera after clearing the mobs in the hallway, there is a 3/4 chance you will not be targetted despite the battle never been decreed as ended. You can Hide to TA the Chimera's arse. Same story for Amdapor Keep Hard, at the room with many enemy waves, the 2nd wave consists of a Succubus and 2 imps, if you stand on the edge behind them they might not notice you, so you can Hide and TA the Succubus while the Tank is building their aggro. For both cases you must wait till monster's take action before Hiding.

    Hide is cool, you know >:|?!
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  3. #153
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    - It seems Duality isn't affected by DE,
    What? Yes it is. To be sure, I just went and tested against a data set I already have, and both strikes with Duality+DE hit above the range for no DE.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    DE What? Yes it is!!
    Blame the document!! it confused me!! >___<!!

    Edit: well thats my bad but you still can't do DE and AE/AC in the same TA window if you use Hide :v (unless insane Skill Speed which everyone hates)
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    Last edited by Arkenne; 08-11-2015 at 07:59 AM.

  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Blame the document!! it confused me!! >___<!!

    Edit: well thats my bad but you still can't do DE and AE/AC in the same TA window if you use Hide :v (unless insane Skill Speed which everyone hates)
    Okay, I see where you're getting your info from. The guide on wordpress could use a rewording. What actually happens is that if the debuff is down, both strikes are treated as it being down; and if the debuff is up, both strikes are treated as it being up. The guide does kinda make it sound like both strikes are treated without the buff regardless.
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Hooh? Neat stuff, but I still can't believe how little people think about Hide :|

    Hide is a neat skill, you know? True, it can't be used in battle and for boss battles its underwelming but, what about the rest?!
    Take this tip: Hide can only be used while you yourself aren't in battle. But this doesn't mean that if a party member engaged already you yourself will also be engaged.

    -snip-

    Hide is cool, you know >:|?!
    Probably pretty obvious, but another quick tip: use Hide as you jump, and land where you want to be, to negate the movement speed penalty.
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    Last edited by Icy_Inferno; 08-11-2015 at 03:54 PM.

  7. #157
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Curious to know what you all plan to buy next with esoterics.
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  8. #158
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Personally, as NIN is my main, I plan to get all the i190 and i200 gears to try out different builds, for the fun of it.

    So, against all pronostic, my next eso piece seems to be the body O__o;;


    Quote Originally Posted by Icy_Inferno View Post
    Hide as you jump to negate the movement speed penalty.
    The movement speed penalty doesn't happen immediately as the animation starts but when the character crouches down with both weapon almost touching the floor. So you can just run closer and will not be stopped anyway...
    Or have you tried jumping mid animation and see if the penalty doesn't happen until you land?? I need to test this later >:|
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    Last edited by Arkenne; 08-12-2015 at 12:28 AM.

  9. #159
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    Cryss Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Curious to know what you all plan to buy next with esoterics.
    I'll be getting belt and wrist this week and feet next week. Can't afford ring yet unfortunately because of accuracy issues. Didn't plan any further ahead, will probably be decided by our savage progression status.
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  10. #160
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Curious to know what you all plan to buy next with esoterics.
    I got the Belt this week and plan to grab the pants next week for BiS. Accuracy isn't an issue so far since I'll grab some 210 accessoiries to make up for it.
    Other than that there's still buff food for accuracy. D:
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    Last edited by Atreides; 08-12-2015 at 05:17 PM.

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