On the lack of humanity in our community.

[Kosmos992k]

I'm sorry, but you're the ignorant person if you think that staying in a bad environment that triggers, or at least worsens the symptoms of depression is a good idea. Environment is always a factor in any kind of depression and its severity.

You should read my posts again, I'm certain that in my first and/or second replies in this topic I absolutely advocated removing yourself from the environment, if no other solution is viable.

Listen, I respect your opinions as regards you yourself amd what works for you. However i believe your therapist was wrong if they claimed that therapy can ontrol depression in general. Many people have a biochemical imbalance that is the root cause of their issue, therapy will not be particularly effective controlling that. You are falling into the trap of assuming that what works for you (assuming it works)will work for everyone else, it won't, every person and situation is unique.

You did not say that the OP should take tranquilizers, my original reply incorrectly makes it look like you did because I answered thst point when replying to your comment, and I apologize for that. I should have broken that thought out of my reply directed to you. I will ammend the post and copy the correction here also.

Correction
My original reply incorrectly made it seem that Adire had suggested the use of tranquilizers. In fact they did not, Ceodore on the other hand DID.

Seriously, calm down. Take a Xanax or Valium or something.

Suggesting that someone who is depressed should take tranquilizers misses the mark by several light years.

My apologies for not making my reply clear in the first place.

[Adire]

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I think we can agree that bipolar disorder is an example of a disorder that causes depression onset, regardless of triggers. However:

http://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorde...polar-disorder

Apparently, therapy is indeed a well accepted method of attempting to manage depression symptoms, even in bipolar disorder. Is it perfect? No. Is it a cure? No. But it is a treatment, therapeutic advice is good for anyone. Including the advice to avoid remaining in a bad environment.

I am simply saying that remaining in a hostile and/or damaging environment is not healthy for depression, and increases vulnerability of worsening symptoms for anyone, regardless of their case. That is fact. That is not ignorance. You will be hard pressed to find a therapist who recommends that a depressed person remain in such an environment. And anyone who gives the advice to remain in bad environments for a person should really not be giving advice.

Oh, and when a game is causing you as much as much pain as it is making you happy, or more pain even, it ceases to be therapeutic.

[Kosmos992k]

Oh, and when a game is causing you as much as much pain as it is making you happy, or more pain even, it ceases to be therapeutic.

I have and will always maintain that any time a game ceases to be fun, it's time to try something else. The trouble here is that a player can be stressed and not enjoy their game play depending on how they play and who with. So changing those things would be a first step for someone who actually enjoys the underlying game. I'm not going to argue with you about depression or bipolar disorder, I have my experience, you have yours.

[Adire]

I have and will always maintain that any time a game ceases to be fun, it's time to try something else. The trouble here is that a player can be stressed and not enjoy their game play depending on how they play and who with. So changing those things would be a first step for someone who actually enjoys the underlying game. I'm not going to argue with you about depression or bipolar disorder, I have my experience, you have yours.

The problem is, you never know when that can change. I'm sure the OP thought they were in good company for a while with their static, then it turned out the static was the main trigger for the OP to post this thread. You can only start to hate the game's community so much before it becomes unrealistic for you to stay and be happy. MMOs are as much about community and socializing as they are about gaming, and you can't really do much in an MMO without encountering people.

[Ellellaria_Elle]

That is a common problem with any MMO. To some it becomes a worker bee mentality and people get so focused on gaining items that'll no doubt be obsolete in the upcoming months but feel there is GREAT importance in having it now to satisfy what exactly?

It all reflects on the players I just don't think people are emphatic enough when playing these types of games with other people, it brings out the selfish desires of many to obtain power or bragging rights that in reality doesn't mean anything at all.

What I enjoyed in the game is once I got to a certain level of mastery I gave back to the new ones and sat with them and explained tactics with them. If a mob got too powerful well I'd go out and poke it with a stick and it dies. Can you truly call this a community if everything is about achieving a means to an end?

[Malevicton]

Just start invading other people's worlds and you can farm humanity pretty quick

[Liselsia]

I will just say that there are many communities beyond the Endgame community. If you focus on competition and progression, of course course people around you are going to be shitty. Besides pursuing shitty community then complaining how terrible it is. How about appreciating all the other incredibly warming, pleasant, and welcoming communities xiv has to offer.

[Demogulus-Veisef]

It was inevitable given the way the content is designed to be played, where the whole group is punished for the failings of a few.

Which will be the ultimate ruination of this game, few players screw up EVERYONE loses, League of Legends IS just like this as well, no matter how skillful a person is they're ultimately unrewarded if they have someone on their team that isn't as skilled which will result in loss after loss after loss, which in turn breeds angst and hatred, end game content sure is hard but do they need to be rediculously hard where if 1 person screws up everyone loses for his failure? why is that a necessity in games nowadays cause skill means team coordination? I dunno about that I've seen lots of skillful players in gaming IN general do alot without help, why must the whole team be punished for 1 mistake made, it makes no sense logically.

Why Square Enix promotes this kind of thing I don't understand.

[Cakekizy]

Dear gods, calm down.

It's a video game.

A

video

game.

You make it sound like it made you suicidal or something.

And at the risk of dehumanizing you, I think you have some issues with obsession if you get like this over video games. It's a distraction. A game. Nothing more. And I say this as someone who's in alex savage and has a static myself.

So chill. Have fun. Stop this.



Pretty much every psychiatrist/psychologist would disagree with you.
Including my own.

Depression is a horrible affliction that can destroy people's lives and take them away.

It is the purest incarnation of 'bad'.

Of course they would disagree, if people viewed depression that way they would make less money.

[Jerichai]

Apparently, therapy is indeed a well accepted method of attempting to manage depression symptoms, even in bipolar disorder. Is it perfect? No. Is it a cure? No. But it is a treatment, therapeutic advice is good for anyone.

Hi, I've dealt with depression for the last decade. Care to explain why my experiences with therapy drove me deeper into depression for a time?

If one form of treatment works for you, that's great. I hope everyone dealing with mental illness eventually finds an effective regimen to over come it. But stop pushing the narrative that one thing will benefit everyone. We know so little about how the human brain functions...and how it can dysfunction...to make statements like that. All that narrative serves is to make people feel more hopeless when the 'tried and true' methods don't yield beneficial results for them.