[DRK] Wanna know why Unleashed & Abyssal Drain are both needed?

[Giantbane]

Its a free attack, usually at a time when you are building hate. What are you on about?

It's also usually when you have blood price available, so it's not great by any means. And if your group threat pull is supposed to be abyssal, it becomes even more niche/not terribly useful @60.

[Ladon]

It's also usually when you have blood price available, so it's not great by any means. And if your group threat pull is supposed to be abyssal, it becomes even more niche/not terribly useful @60.

How often are you effectively pulling groups with Abyssal Drain? Most groups are still clustered well beyond 5y to hit them all and even then I wouldn't really want to spend 970 mana to hit 3 or so enemies. A few well placed Unmends and a well timed Unleashed or two is going to almost always give better results when pulling.

[Giantbane]

How often are you effectively pulling groups with Abyssal Drain? Most groups are still clustered well beyond 5y to hit them all and even then I wouldn't really want to spend 970 mana to hit 3 or so enemies. A few well placed Unmends and a well timed Unleashed or two is going to almost always give better results when pulling.

Yes, it does "something" sometimes. But because you have blood price and we're talking AoE (where you get a lot of mp back) it usually doesn't really matter much anyway. It's pretty lackluster @ 60.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

How often are you effectively pulling groups with Abyssal Drain? Most groups are still clustered well beyond 5y to hit them all and even then I wouldn't really want to spend 970 mana to hit 3 or so enemies. A few well placed Unmends and a well timed Unleashed or two is going to almost always give better results when pulling.

Abyssal Drain is 15y.