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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
    Based on the numbers I am currently seeing, SMNs and BLMs are doing around 1100-1200 single target while the melees are over 1500 (with a bard in the group).
    You're saying melee do about 50% more damage than mages single target. You are wrong. There's no other way to put it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disc View Post
    You're saying melee do about 50% more damage than mages single target. You are wrong. There's no other way to put it.
    300-400 is way different than 550-600.

    They're still wrong, but it's far from 50%.
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  3. #33
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    I rounded.

    You're saying melee do about 25-36.36%+ more damage than mages single target!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    The issue to this is. We won't be able to hold aggro against Summoners or Black Mages in normal groups or have a much harder time. Unless our main source of damage is Magic.
    I don't follow your logic. Dark knights have no threat issues. Black mages and summoners love us because they know they'll get to cut loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disc View Post
    I rounded.
    Rounded to what? Almost twice the amount lol.

    That being said, I have been seeing larger numbers come out of melees than ranged. It's not nearly the 1550 to 1100-1200 discrepancy that Ladon was describing but I think melees are definitely doing noticeably more dps than ranged.
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    Last edited by LordHousewife; 08-10-2015 at 05:42 PM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordHousewife View Post
    Rounded to what? Almost twice the amount lol.
    See now your numbers are flawed. 50% is not even close to twice 36.36%, somebody is rounding up to prove a point. My experiences are just the opposite though, I see the highest damage coming from good BLM on single target. I admittedly rarely run anything with SMNs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disc View Post
    See now your numbers are flawed. 50% is not even close to twice 36.36%, somebody is rounding up to prove a point. My experiences are just the opposite though, I see the highest damage coming from good BLM on single target. I admittedly rarely run anything with SMNs.
    Top DPS as of 3.05(single target)
    Monk, Dragoon, Ninja

    If either of these are in your party doing less than a BLM on a single enemy, then they are under performing.
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  8. #38
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    Prove it. And then I typed more than ten characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disc View Post
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    There is a DPS forum you know. Anyone breaking extremely high DPS is a Monk , Ninja , or Dragoon, the devs have said melee's are intended to be the highest single target, Monk has always out damaged Black Mage single target, originally Dragoon was also out damaged by Monk but they're much more even now, actually dragoon might even have a slight lead. Ninja is about even with Monk but has higher burst. There's no need for us to even parse ourselves, There are plenty of parses in the DPS forum, on youtube, and reddit, practically all over the net to show that a Black mage will always be less than a Melee on single target. Unless said melee is under performing or of lesser skill. The game is just balanced that way.
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  10. #40
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    Then you will have no trouble at all finding the proof to backup your statements.
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