Cleric Stance in PvP

[Eldaena]

I don't know if Cleric Stance needs to be re-evaluated or not, but right now healers aren't that much fun in Seal Rock. I'm usually the only healer that is in the party and sometimes the alliance and I feel helpless to stop things sometimes, even when focusing just on healing. Obviously, something isn't balanced here because people just straight up refuse to play healers anymore and I feel that frustration too, I just like white mage, though. Maybe if it was easier to heal alliance members that could make playing a healer role more fun in pvp. (It would be nice if the ground abilities like Sacred Soil, Asylum, etc could effect alliance members. Medica, Succor, etc able to be used on alliance members in range and not just party members.)

[RiceisNice]

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Fun is Subjective. The matter of fact is, if the alliance has absolutely no healers, then their chances of winning any pvp objectives is extremely slim. I've only evef won Seize rock with 1 healer (int he entire 24man alliance) was when we did not engage the enemy, had favorable node spawns throughout the fight, and the two GCs were hounding at each other's neck the entire time. Saying "it's not fun" is a very poor reason to make balancing changes, especially when said changes was initially what was breaking the game to begin with.

[Yumi_umi]

We play the game to have fun.
( pvp wise)
You play dps cuz its easy and fun.
You play tank cuz its even easier and fun.
You don't play healer cuz its not fun and u'd probably get 1 shotted by raw destruction lmao.

When ur team loses and ur like y r there no healers, ask urself this.
Y the hell didnt u change to healer that round?
1) i dont have any healer classes
2) im a bad healer pvp too scary
3) its not fun healing
4) no comment

Out of 24 players in an alliance NOT ONE PERSON SWAPS TO HEALER.

But sometimes ppl will swap and those ppl r the reason y u get to pvp.

[Monoman]

We play the game to have fun.
( pvp wise)
You play dps cuz its easy and fun.
You play tank cuz its even easier and fun.
You don't play healer cuz its not fun and u'd probably get 1 shotted by raw destruction lmao.

When ur team loses and ur like y r there no healers, ask urself this.
Y the hell didnt u change to healer that round?
1) i dont have any healer classes
2) im a bad healer pvp too scary
3) its not fun healing
4) no comment

Out of 24 players in an alliance NOT ONE PERSON SWAPS TO HEALER.

But sometimes ppl will swap and those ppl r the reason y u get to pvp.

5) You have healer on another character!!!

That's my reason

[Santherelle]

I think a lot of the upset comes from a lack of rewards for healing.

"Yeah I healed you for a ton! and got no kills, and No achievements, and was the target of everybody instantly ..."

[Cidel]

You don't play healer cuz its not fun and u'd probably get 1 shotted by raw destruction lmao.

If you get 1-shotted by Raw Destruction you are geared up incorrectly for the role of healer in PvP.

In fact, everyone should make sure they have over 1k HP to at least avoid this scenario.

When ur team loses and ur like y r there no healers, ask urself this.
Y the hell didnt u change to healer that round?

This is my statement (not word-for word in this text-messaging language though) to everyone who isn't on healer and complains about lack of healers in the alliance being a factor to why we lose.

[RiceisNice]

This is my statement (not word-for word in this text-messaging language though) to everyone who isn't on healer and complains about lack of healers in the alliance being a factor to why we lose.

It's still possible to win with 1 or no healers...You're just even at more mercy of RNG and the other two GCs to leave you alone. Without enough healers, you aren't winning any dogfights or clashes, unless you pick an oppertunistic one (the other GC is attacking the same one as you). And prey that you get at least 1 node per cycle within your reach. Of course if nodes start riding the cave team with 3 consecutive A spawns, or the other GC isn't being oppertunstic and is staying at their side, you're SOL.

[Cidel]

It's still possible to win with 1 or no healers...You're just even at more mercy of RNG and the other two GCs to leave you alone.

It's possible to win without a single one of your team members doing any damage to the enemy. Not relevant to the conversation, but since we're talking absurdly low possibilities and specific situations now...

[Eldaena]

Fun is Subjective...Saying "it's not fun" is a very poor reason to make balancing changes, especially when said changes was initially what was breaking the game to begin with.

I don't know why you're quoting me for this. I didn't say "hey! Let's make healers broken!" "I don't know if Cleric Stance needs to be re-evaluated or not, but right now healers aren't that much fun in Seal Rock." Is what I said, but that's not the full extent of what I meant. Games are made to be fun. Fun is subjective, as you said, but it also has several different meanings in my post. Fun, or lack there of, could mean that it's not up to the same standards as other jobs are in pvp and that is why no one is playing it. No where did I say "bring back Cleric Stance!" or some other nonsense you seem to be accusing me of. Actually, what I suggested is what I think might make it more worthwhile to play a healer, which is what would encourage people to do it. I want balanced play for all jobs and alliances. I think extending the healing abilities (aoe) to alliance and not just restricted to the party they are in might be a more rewarding gameplay that healers are craving. I'm sure with proper balancing, it could be good. I think that's what me and other healers want.

[Maxwell]

If you find healing boring in pvp you're doing it wrong. After almost 600 matches mostly on whm, i can tell you there is always something to do as a healer.

Here are a few tips:

• Debuff enemies to prevent them from running away (Stone 1)
• Constantly disable enemies to drop their overall potency (Sleep/bind)
• Deny nodes with aoe (Misasma 2/holy/assize/aether burst/retrogradation/etc.)
• Heal the OTHER teams!!!! Dont just heal your own party.
• Bait people away
• Distract/waste people's cooldowns and LBs by super tanking with atunement/sacred prism/equanimity + cure bomb
• Knock people away when they deny or attempting to cap a node (fluid aura/aura blast)
• Remove debuffs from people!!!!
• Knock people back in your party's kill zone

If you are trying to 1v1 people on healer you're doing it wrong. The game is not designed for this.