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  1. #51
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    I was trying to think of something positive. I really hope se doesn't take him seriously but I think the community response and minimal number of asts clearing content speaks for itself.
    He is 1 person against a whole community. Both here and on the Japanese forums the situation is obvious and no way in hell a serious developer will take him serious over hundreds of others.
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  2. #52
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Minus cooldown and the original nerf to stance dancing our healing is strong enough to be slightly below white mage and above scholar where we should be.
    Until you realize that Scholars have:
    1) Their fairies' Embrace, which adds a second, 300 potency heal to their own.
    2) Lustrate, a single target heal with 600 potency that is usable up to 3 times in 60 seconds.
    3) Indomitable an AoE heal with 400 potency that is usable up to 2 times in 60 seconds.
    4) Emergency Tactics, which literally doubles Succor and Aldo's heal at the cost of having no shields.
    5) Eos, who gives Scholars Whispering Dawn, a 100 potency, AoE regen, and Fey Illuminate, which increases all healing potency by 20%.
    6) Rouse, which increases their pets heals' by 40% and makes them immune to several debuffs.

    And that's not even going into the utility or DPS Scholars bring.
    I love Astrologian, I really do (I'm freaking maining it right now) but I'm not going to act like it's a complete package because right now, it's half-baked.
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  3. #53
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    GideonHighmourn's Avatar
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    Gideon Highmourn
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    Hyperion
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    How many times do you have to realize that the up front healing of the astro in noc stance is better then white mage.
    You are 100% incorrect in this statement, period. Benefic I becomes 399 potency vs 400 Cure potency. Benefic II becomes 651 potency vs 650 Cure II potency. NoctAST does not, under any circumstances, cool downs or otherwise, out heal a WHM.

    How many times do people have to spell this out for you before you stop spouting this absolute garbage and misinformation?

    Transcript of the mouth of the dev himself. Was originally set to stance dance but they said they would limit how many times you could change during combat. I can think of countless times I could have saved people if I could have gone from duirnal stance to nocturnal stance. Being able to weave regen and shields would be incredibly powerful.
    Again, it was never able to sect dance in combat during actual game play or during public testing AFAIK. This doesn't mean it was "nerfed". Adding it would change absolutely nothing in the larger picture for AST, especially if it was tied to a long cool down as they claimed it would be.

    The level of your ignorance is beyond astounding.
    This is why people are hostile towards you, and an incredibly ironic statement, given that pretty much anything you have claimed or said is false.

    I'll remind you, for a moment, that it's against the forum rules and policies to post false or fabricated information:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrien
    Please do not post false, fabricated and/or fictitious information.
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    Last edited by GideonHighmourn; 08-08-2015 at 09:06 PM.

  4. #54
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    As I said I do not like math but Benfic II with bonus from stance is 640 potency + 500 potency instant cast shield/heal every 5 seconds. Fairy 300 potency has its own formula which is not the same as the caster itself and has been clocked more along the lines of 150 potency and adlo which is 300 potency cure and 300 shield I think wish is roughly 750 potency. You can use the fairy cast and adlo on its own cooldown so therefore its 750 every 2.5 seconds compared to astro 1140 every 5 seconds so yes the up front healing of an astro does beat out a scholar and fairy which was my point for emergency healing. Lustrate is very powerful I agree but I did focus on side by side spell casting to show that astro toe to toe can outheal a scholar when it matters most in burst healing via noc stance.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by GideonHighmourn View Post
    You are 100% incorrect in this statement, period. Benefic I becomes 299 potency vs 300 Cure potency. Benefic II becomes 651 potency vs 650 Cure II potency. NoctAST does not, under any circumstances, cool downs or otherwise, out heal a WHM.

    How many times do people have to spell this out for you before you stop spouting this absolute garbage and misinformation?



    Again, it was never able to sect dance in combat during actual game play or during public testing AFAIK. This doesn't mean it was "nerfed". Adding it would change absolutely nothing in the larger picture for AST, especially if it was tied to a long cool down as they claimed it would be.



    This is why people are hostile towards you, and an incredibly ironic statement, given that pretty much anything you have claimed or said is false.

    I'll remind you, for a moment, that it's against the forum rules and policies to post false or fabricated information:
    Like your fabrication I claimed to know savage groups using two astrologians that screamed a bloody answer from 5+ of your previous responses? Please take your own advice and do not fabricate information.
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  6. #56
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    Gideon Highmourn
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    Like your fabrication I claimed to know savage groups using two astrologians that screamed a bloody answer from 5+ of your previous responses? Please take your own advice and do not fabricate information.
    I never claimed that; that was another poster.

    Again, another glorious example as to why you find people are hostile towards you and your posts. You are grossly misinformed and provide no factual evidence to any of the claims you've made.
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  7. #57
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Quote Originally Posted by GideonHighmourn View Post
    I never claimed that; that was another poster.
    But yet you screamed bloody murder for me to answer him when I said in previous posts I never said that.
    You accuse me of not wanting to man up to my mistakes. I was proven wrong about scholar dps being stronger and I manned up to it. I agree that astro cooldowns are a muck up.

    Your move.
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  8. #58
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    Gideon Highmourn
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    But yet you screamed bloody murder for me to answer him when I corrected in previous posts I never said that.
    Again, that wasn't me. I implore you to find the post where I insisted that you answer him, because I well-know the incident you're referring to, and I assure you, that was not me.
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  9. #59
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    Then I apologize if it was not you. I believe you and will not waste my time to go back back through 3 days of my posts. To claim I fabricate information when people claim that the Japanese forums are also up in arms about the astro job is a bending of the truth. Most of those posts were pre buffs weeks back and it has died down to barely a whisper of what crap goes on here.
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    Last edited by Vlady; 08-08-2015 at 01:13 PM.

  10. #60
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    Gideon Highmourn
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    To claim I fabricate information when people claim that the Japanese forums are also up in arms about the astro job is a bending of the truth. Most of those posts were pre buffs weeks back and it has died down to barely a whisper of what crap goes on here.
    This is also false; only 70~ pages were posted before the buffs, and it's now well into 200 pages.

    203 pages.

    203

    Barely a whisper, really?
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    Last edited by GideonHighmourn; 08-08-2015 at 01:21 PM.

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