Emotes in the cash shop..

[Kaedan]

The items being in a cash shop doesn't satisfy the complaints of the twelve year olds who got upset that other people had the same stuff they do. They're also, by the way, not the kind of people SE should be paying any attention to.

By your logic, players should be able to get Alex Savage drops by spending gil/tokens. And if raiders complained, they'd just be acting like twelve year olds upset that people have the same stuff they do.

What you have to comprehend is that these events are billed as "One and only chance". They repeat the "only available during this event" line everywhere. Even when they have similar events/items in the future, the items are at least slightly different. There is a level exclusivity attached to seasonal items, and it's a tool for them to get people to subscribe. A lot of people take breaks from the game and then resub just for events until the next major patch comes out. So for all intents and purposes, those people are spending $15 (or $10 if legacy) for the seasonal items.

So perhaps it's you who should stop being a twelve year old and think before you start insulting people and telling SE who they should listen to. You've proven it definitely shouldn't be you.

[Naunet]

By your logic, players should be able to get Alex Savage drops by spending gil/tokens. And if raiders complained, they'd just be acting like twelve year olds upset that people have the same stuff they do.

Uh. What? No, not by my logic at all. Only by your twisted mind. Alex Savage is a raid. If people want Alex Savage drops, they can run the content in-game. I doubt the raid will be going anywhere.

The holiday items, on the other hand, were previously available for gil. And then SE removed them. Seriously. Why is this so hard to understand?

[Kaedan]

Uh. What? No, not by my logic at all. Only by your twisted mind. Alex Savage is a raid. If people want Alex Savage drops, they can run the content in-game. I doubt the raid will be going anywhere.

The holiday items, on the other hand, were previously available for gil. And then SE removed them. Seriously. Why is this so hard to understand?

And the seasonal events are limited time content with exclusive items.

The items were originally only available by participating in the events. When the season came around again, SE sold some of the old items for gil. Players who had done the event and were told that the items were exclusive to the event pointed out the mistake to SE. So as a compromise, SE is offering them for real money.

Nothing wrong with it at all.

[ckc22]

And the seasonal events are limited time content with exclusive items.

The items were originally only available by participating in the events. When the season came around again, SE sold some of the old items for gil. Players who had done the event and were told that the items were exclusive to the event pointed out the mistake to SE. So as a compromise, SE is offering them for real money.

Nothing wrong with it at all.

In XI and the first year of ARR you could get old event rewards during the event. That's all people are asking for. It's really not a huge deal. You're asking to feel like a special snowflake based off of an optional event that provides lvl 1 glamour gear and in no way takes much effort or activity on your part.

Again, the "you can't have it because I have it" crowd is childish. People aren't asking to be able to buy relic glamours or something, this isn't something you worked and slaved at getting...

[sirDarts]

In XI and the first year of ARR you could get old event rewards during the event. That's all people are asking for. It's really not a huge deal. You're asking to feel like a special snowflake based off of an optional event that provides lvl 1 glamour gear and in no way takes much effort or activity on your part.

Again, the "you can't have it because I have it" crowd is childish. People aren't asking to be able to buy relic glamours or something, this isn't something you worked and slaved at getting...

SE can make money from these items without hurting ANYONE.

Why shouldn't they?

Once again, more money for SE = GOOD.
More money for SE without hurting anyone = GREAT.

[Bodicca]

SE can make money from these items without hurting ANYONE.

Why shouldn't they?

Once again, more money for SE = GOOD.
More money for SE without hurting anyone = GREAT.

Why shouldn't they? This is exactly what WoW players asked when Blizzard put Sparkle Ponies in the cash shop. Fast forward to Warlords of Draenor where WoW lost half its subscribers - OVER FIVE MILLION PLAYERS GONE - in the first eight months of this cheap, shallow expansion. The devs reacted by shrugging their shoulders and saying they'd be offering more "premium services" to offset the sub loss. Not a word was spoken about improving the game or fixing problems with that failed expansion. Yay for adding WoW tokens and more mounts to the cash shop. They didn't care because they didn't need to.

It didn't matter that a million players a month disliked their game so much that they bailed on it when it was fresh out of the box. If they could make up that revenue the game can suck and they can keep making money. And this is why true MMORPG's have declined. Not because "the players have changed" or "gamers are different" . . . MILLIONS of gamers are hungry to play a great MMO - the ten million people who initially flocked to WoD with high expectations proves that. Sub MMO's have declined because they are no longer designed with passion and fun and a love for the game. They are designed around the fact that gamers can't keep their credit cards in their wallets.

[Ilitsa]

Why shouldn't they? This is exactly what WoW players asked when Blizzard put Sparkle Ponies in the cash shop. Fast forward to Warlords of Draenor where WoW lost half its subscribers - OVER FIVE MILLION PLAYERS GONE

That's some crazy ass conjecture. The loss of subs had NOTHING to do with a few mounts being in the cash shop. Don't project your negative feelings of a cash shop so hard. Makes you lose any and all credibility as a person.