Something need to be done about BAD DPS.

[dragorian]

Let's bring back the true job competent test at 50 like the matt fight in ffxi

[Elazu]

My only gripe is when people tell me my dps is low, like okay, but so what ?

Okay my dps is low but like do you know someone you can recommend to me or like good guides and stuff or tips don't just say it's bad because you're just gonna piss me off.

Have you heard of 'google'? Pretty nice website.

[MistyMew]

I have been a avid MMO player with my First MMO being FFXI back when it first released followed by WoW for 11+ years. It's not the parsers you need to worry about it's the people reading them. Does anyone remember gearcheck in WoW? How people set ungodly high standards that prevented new players from joining? Let's face it and be honest with ourselves here. We are a bunch of self loathing assholes that the community would set a high standard barring new players from accessing new content. "Bard most do 1400 DPS" Just because you can does not mean everyone can. SE has designed the game and I am sure they factored in that somewhere along the line there may be weaker players then yourself.

My verdict? Hell no on parses because the community is no way shape or form mature enough to use them correctly.

Hear Hear my lady ...you deserve far more then my "like"
You are spot on!

[Tuathaa]

Have you heard of 'google'? Pretty nice website.

Nonsense if the can find general in the forums and qq here they can find the dps section of the forums. No Google needed

[Darkstride]

My verdict? Hell no on parses because the community is no way shape or form mature enough to use them correctly.

I agree that there needs to be a higher degree of maturity before a parser would be successful. However, I don't think the lack of maturity only lies with those who abuse parses to harass others. I also think that there are far too many people unwilling to take responsibility for themselves and their performance. When you play an MMO and interact with other people, you affect their game play experience, not just your own. There are too many players willing to play victim and avoid a parser rather than improving their own performance. DPS checks are a real thing, so whether you accept it or not, the truth is that you could very well be holding others back.

Players need to realize that while they may feel special because they pay a subscription, they aren't any more special than everyone else playing who also pays a subscription. Accepting that you play poorly and disregarding the way that you can affect another person's game play experience is a worse attitude than so-called Elitists who expect you to provide a certain degree of performance.

I think there are plenty of people on the community who don't expect "the best" all of the time, but they do expect you to at least play your job effectively and not be a burden on others. That is where parsers can really shine as they are an excellent self-help tool to identify opportunities for improvement. It's just a shame that they are instead viewed as a tool designed for harassment.

Have you heard of 'google'? Pretty nice website.

Being resourceful is an underrated quality that an unfortunate amount of players seem to lack. In my opinion, it again shows that players are unable to take responsibility for themselves.

Saying things like

My only gripe is when people tell me my dps is low, like okay, but so what ?

Okay my dps is low but like do you know someone you can recommend to me or like good guides and stuff or tips don't just say it's bad because you're just gonna piss me off

is just silly to me. It's always someone else's fault.

[Joeymtl]

Personally I think that the job quests and guildleves are doing a good job at teaching people how to play. Also, the abilities descriptions are generally self explanatory. A person with common sense and the actual will to play optimally will do a decent job unless he's physically unable to push buttons and dodge stuff proprely. There will always be people like that, and forcing them into a complex tutorial or parser shaming isn't a solution. They either don't care, or they simply can't, as many stated.

The way I see it is, I should work toward making friends and teaming up with people that are good players and play inside that circle.

I can always chose who I team with, and remember that duty roulette bonuses are just that, bonuses. They're incentives to make the system work, the system that makes you team up with bad players, the ones that couldn't find friends to play with... because, well, they're bad, so bad that it makes us go on forum to ask SE to do something about it.

[Onikimaru]

Exactly. People have a right to suck. They pay just like everybody else. There is no reason to remove them from a duty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA

[CrimsonThunder]

Fantastic idea. Let's lock players out of content they've paid for until they get good like the players of raid lore. Screw your lag, time constraints, disabilities and whatever else, this is FFXIV and this is a game about making sure your paycheck ensures 'my' entertainment, not accessibility.

Someone pitch this amazing business model to SE asap.

[Totobi]

Fantastic idea. Let's lock players out of content they've paid for until they get good like the players of raid lore. Screw your lag, time constraints, disabilities and whatever else, this is FFXIV and this is a game about making sure your paycheck ensures 'my' entertainment, not accessibility.

Someone pitch this amazing business model to SE asap.

If the game is too hard for you to even out-dps a shield oath tank then maybe it's time to find a new game to play? Instead of wasting everyone elses time.

[CrimsonThunder]

If the game is too hard for you to even out-dps a shield oath tank then maybe it's time to find a new game to play? Instead of wasting everyone elses time.

What an utterly situational thought. Was the tank out gearing the DPS? Was the player having a bad day? Distracted? Keyboard/controller screw up? New class perhaps?

I think someone had a bad run and got a little upset. Maybe you should find a new game if this one is too accessible to casuals for you. I hear LoL is always looking for more people.