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  1. #21
    Player Bhuni's Avatar
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    Hugo Fact
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Daranion View Post
    I can guarantee you with 99.99% certainty, this Esoterics weapon has nothing to do with the next relic.
    Well the Almandal Summoner book has the exact same page design as the 2.x relic which can't be found on any other Grimoire.
    They might just shove upgrade items into the upcoming 24 man raid where you can fart on bosses with no effort and then begin the real quest, which I kinda hope is unique between each relic but it will probably just be same old same old.
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  2. #22
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    Rafaelhades's Avatar
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    Ra'fael Sohlo
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    Sargatanas
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Job specific enhancements. It doesn't matter if the grind is long and ardous if the reward is worth the work. Altering stats with materia was great, but to really set it apart from tome weapons and raid weapons, having a weapon that enhances the job using it would be even better. In addition, if they created content to fuel the Relic that is comparable to mid tier raiding, there would be no issue with it competing with top tier raid weapons. Maybe make it slightly weaker to compensate for the additional power the enhancement provides.

    Edit: I second the statemente made about relic story. Leave Gerolt behind and flesh out the legends of the weapons and their wielders through the quests. As a MCH, I would love to do quests that unravels the history of, say, Death Penalty and the legendary marksman that wielded it. Or Yoichinoyumi for BRDs.
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    Last edited by Rafaelhades; 08-07-2015 at 07:54 AM.

  3. #23
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    My hope for Mythic is that the esoteric weapons are NOT their seeds. Some are great for the Jobs they're for but others, like the Berinbau, are utter garbage. Hopefully the true Mythics will start at the 'Novus' level in that we can choose their stats, otherwise we're going to have to suffer through terrible Mythics till we do hit the 'Novus' level.
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    Last edited by Gilraen; 08-07-2015 at 09:18 AM.

  4. #24
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    Windklinge's Avatar
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    Windklinge Wirbelwind
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    relic will be either have one of these or BOTH : MASSIVE RNG based crap which is pure luck to ever finish (atma 3.0) and/or MASSIVE GIL requirement so that gil selling gets even more food in players and makes thier markets explode even more because now gil gates a endgame weapon.

    you can bet on these things.
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  5. #25
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    Crafting, because from what I hear, crafting right now is... crafting for the sake of crafting something to be able to craft something for crafting. Something like that. They'll have to make crafters relevant again. Maybe even something to do with gathering. So those people who are already rich can get even richer.

    Other than that... Crystal Tower, maybe, since those are pretty dead nowadays (again, from what I hear). Or even Extreme Primals.

    And yes, definitely more RNG. Because there is not enough RNG yet, and RNG is fun, apparently.

    Or cash shop.

    Please no the zodiac phase that required high quality crap from each craft was awful they shouldn't go this way again and down the line it will be nearly impossible to get because crafters won't bother making this stuff after a certain amount of time.

    RNG should yes should involve a part in it I hate this fact but yes it will.

    CT are you kidding me please no Yoshi needs to stop forcing us to go back just to help new people this in no way helps them since people will speed run the stuff like Sonic on crack saying FASTER KEEP MOVEING OR I BOOT YOU. and you know people will.
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    Last edited by Dererk; 08-07-2015 at 08:10 AM.

  6. #26
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Raiden
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by IfritReborn View Post
    They need to do something impressive because Blizzard introduced their own Artifact Weapons for the next expansion and it beats out 2.xx relic by miles and will most likely beat out the boring crap they have planned for 3.1
    I expect it to be time gated rather than grind or money gated like ARR's relic.

    Can only do X and Y this patch, wait 8 months to do Z and can't finish it until right before the next expansion.

    I don't mind grinds.

    The main reason I never did my relic in ARR? Money. F spending that kind of money on materia.
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  7. #27
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    Nep_Nep's Avatar
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    Nep Nep
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I honestly hope they make their own bosses and lore behind each weapon. In my opinion the previous Relic's started off well. They had their own bosses like Hydra and Chimera. But suddenly we're spamming old bosses. I hope the RNG stuff won't go out of control this time. Looking at you Atma/Zodiac.

    I remember they confirmed these relics would be easier or something. Can't remember where they said that though.

    Just my two cents.
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  8. #28
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    Dhex's Avatar
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I'm just curious why the Esoteric weapons are all Job specific when the only other weapons in game like that have been Relics.
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  9. #29
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    Daranion's Avatar
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    Daranion Thronir
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    I'm just curious why the Esoteric weapons are all Job specific when the only other weapons in game like that have been Relics.
    Because Esoterics gear according to the lore are gear used traditionally by your job specifically. That's why it's titled AF2. It's the upgrade to your old class gear, used by the much stronger versions of your job. The weapons are part of that set, ancient tools used by the older job users.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    Well the Almandal Summoner book has the exact same page design as the 2.x relic which can't be found on any other Grimoire.
    They might just shove upgrade items into the upcoming 24 man raid where you can fart on bosses with no effort and then begin the real quest, which I kinda hope is unique between each relic but it will probably just be same old same old.
    A reused skin isn't a big enough hint. Keep in mind that the Eso weapons are already upgradable. Think about if you upgraded it to ilvl 210 already from the savage drops. You'd have to either get a 210 upgrade item from the 24man which I highly doubt, or spend another 3 weeks of esoterics to grab the abse weapon again.
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  10. #30
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Something brand new..because that is the only way I will come back to this game. A brand new series of events and such
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