FFXIV better stop doing what WoW's doing, because its losing millions of subs.

[Shadowsun]

I don't know if you've seen Blizzard's Q2 report for 2015. They are down to 5.6m subs for WoW - it had peaked above 10m from the new expansion and less than a year later.. almost half the players are gone.

Part of the reason they are losing subs is from extreme gating of content.
Sounds familiar?

Look at all the gated crap we were greeted with upon finishing main story mode.
I hope the dev team puts the brakes on this and becomes more creative instead of completely lazy.

So many wasted opportunities gated behind weekly lockouts (especially the red scrips for both crafting and gathering, completely shattering any meaning to pursuing those things) just to carry us until patch 3.1 or something.

Or so many things that take forever which no one with a job has the time for.
Gold Saucer had me interested for Triple Triad and Chocobo Racing
But it is such a mind numbing grind now and the tournament stuff has only served to really kill the fun.

Every week we're being limited on things we can do and that is just not how an online game should be.

Squenix, stop cutting corners, or you'll lose out in the end.

[Psycofang]

Not that I disagree nor do I fully agree, though I wish it weren't so there is very few unique mechanisms that se can use while latching on to the trinity system.

It would require a full rebalance and system overhaul to create a non gated web progression systems, which wont require gated content but then its regularly beaten thus content is chewed up faster.

There is no winning situation nor fix in the mmo genre.


Gating will always exist in one way or another

You lack the stats ti get/kill said objective

You dont have the stats/skills/items required for our raid group

Gating is either dev enforced or community enforced.

[jomoru]

I am glad you are here for Squeenix, as it is completely impossible for them to have any analysts to look at the Data on WoW, I mean clearly all those people have left wow because of Lockouts. That's clearly it. I am glad you have the superior accumen to see that when people have said everything else from "its an old game" to "they burned alot of good will on the no flying thing" to the "They've ruined any sense of community" I'm glad you and you alone know the truth and can share it with Squeenix. HIRE THIS WOMAN RIGHT AWAY!.

[Cakekizy]

I think a lot of them left because of arrogance of devs. They removed things ppl enjoyed and made comments that ppl don't know how to have fun and only our way is allowed.

[Ryel]

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Surely tons of community feedback in both games and a significant loss of subs from one of if not THE largest competitor on the market (totally is) is a sign of something.

[Staris]

Losing subs to ff14.....

[LunaHoshino]

Funny, that didn't even come up in the list of reasons the friends of mine who left WoW for FFXIV gave.

What I've heard was:
- the story/lore is an utter mess and relies too much on things like tie-in novels
- the pace and amount of content updates is incredibly inconsistent (they had one update that was nothing but Twitter integration and a selfie cam)
- getting groups for raid could be a nightmare
- the terrain was terrible to navigate and they took away flying to make it even worse
- they hated the direction the story took after Mists of Pandaria
- the game stopped feeling like Warcraft a long time ago

Gating and caps didn't even come up in the conversation.

[jomoru]

Surely tons of community feedback in both games and a significant loss of subs from one of if not THE largest competitor on the market (totally is) is a sign of something.

Yes, it is a sign of something, and I am sure Squeenix has people trying to figure out what it is. I'm damn sure its not "MY PET ISSUE IS PROVEN BY WoW' which is all this complaint is.

if I want to go antedotal I can point out all the Wow Players who moved here, but that's not real data and means nothing.

[Tuathaa]

I don't know if you've seen Blizzard's Q2 report for 2015. They are down to 5.6m subs for WoW - it had peaked above 10m from the new expansion and less than a year later.. almost half the players are gone.

Part of the reason they are losing subs is from extreme gating of content.
Sounds familiar?

No its beacuse they dumbed it down to the point that Facebook's Farmville has more intriguing end game and gaming experience in general

[AzraelX]

Funny, that didn't even come up in the list of reasons the friends of mine who left WoW for FFXIV gave.

What I've heard was:
- the story/lore is an utter mess and relies too much on things like tie-in novels
- the pace and amount of content updates is incredibly inconsistent (they had one update that was nothing but Twitter integration and a selfie cam)
- getting groups for raid could be a nightmare
- the terrain was terrible to navigate and they took away flying to make it ev

Gating and caps didn't even come up in the conversation.

There arenew player post on reddit almost daily that left Wow for ff14 and not one of them have stated that gated content was their last straw.

Based on reddit responses a lot of ppl like some gear gated content b/c it gives people something to reach for. And ummm wasn't the tome cap here since 2.0?