Just buff Astrologians

[Muahbec]

AST doesn't need to be as strong as WHM/SCH. If it was as strong as WHM or as SCH, it would replace both jobs. Also, don't forget that the so called healing cooldowns SCH has are only ways to fill the gap between SCH and WHM/AST. Emergency Tactics transforms Succor in a 300 potency spell, like Medica/Helios, and Adlo in a 600 potency spell, weaker than Cure II/Benefic II. The stats are not the same when applied to the fairy, so the 300 potency heal they do is only 200, similar to Regen and Aspected Benefic (190 potency + 100 regen ticks); with rouse, that fills the gap and allows the fairy to do the same as two regen ticks or one use of Aspected Benefic. Indomitability also uses an Aetherflow stack, which means one less Lustrate or Sacred Soil.

Stacks are not a problem, a good SCH learns how to aways have a stack when needed, Sacred soil is not THAT useful, so you can keep that stack for another lustrate, use E4E instead, indomitability has a 30 s cooldown as well as ET, aetherflow has a 60 seconds CD, if you manage them well you can aways have stacks at your disposal. You also have the amazing rouse+fey illumination+ whispering dawn combo that provides an AMAZING regen to the entire raid, and if you're burning your stacks, just use dissipate, sure you will lose your fairy but if you're burning through your stacks then probably the fairy's not providing that much help i suppose.
SCH has a LOT of tools to keep people alive, unlike AST.

[Leiloni]

Sacred soil is not THAT useful, so you can keep that stack for another lustrate, use E4E instead.

I love E4E as much as the next person but why would you trade a guaranteed 10% less damage on everything hitting you for an RNG based skill that even if it procs may only hit certain targets and not others?

[Litner]

I love E4E as much as the next person but why would you trade a guaranteed 10% less damage on everything hitting you for an RNG based skill that even if it procs may only hit certain targets and not others?

There's pros and cons for both but he's arguing E4E (its own seperate cd) versus the potential use of an Aetherflow stack (which can be used for a lot of things)

[Muahbec]

I love E4E as much as the next person but why would you trade a guaranteed 10% less damage on everything hitting you for an RNG based skill that even if it procs may only hit certain targets and not others?

It can be spread with DT and it has its own CD
Wasting a stack on SS when you have lustrate and indomitability is not that smart to be honest D:
(i don't want to sound rude please.)

[Leiloni]

It can be spread with DT and it has its own CD
Wasting a stack on SS when you have lustrate and indomitability is not that smart to be honest D:
(i don't want to sound rude please.)

Don't assume things that I didn't say for starters. I haven't leveled my SCH past 50 so I don't have the new skills. I was literally just asking a question about tactics and not making suggestions as to how to play with new skills that I don't even have. You made a comment about how you prefer to use things so I was asking the thought process behind it to better understand why.


Although my question still stands - why do you find RNG mitigation better than guaranteed mitigation? Are you saying you'd rather waste a stack/CD on healing the tank up after taking damage as opposed to preventing it to begin with? I'm just struggling to see the logic. If the entire raid is going to be hit by a large AoEs and you want a near guaranteed chance of E4E hitting your target(s) than yes, DT and E4E sounds like a great tactic to do that without wasting an Aetherflow stack. Although that only really sounds useful if you expect another large AoE on your raid, or you're expecting large tank hits right after that. Because the mitigation from E4E comes after they get hit in that case, and is only useful for people that will be getting hit again. But if you just need mitigation for one/two tanks and you're not as concerned about raid wide protection, or if you want guaranteed protection for any amount of players before one or two big hits, wouldn't SS be a far better way to go? Or you could I suppose also throw E4E on the tank a bit before a big hit or big AoE if you can time it well so it has time to proc and still be up when the hit goes off, but that sounds too hard lol.

If there's any other 60 SCH who want to comment as well I'd love to know how you prefer to make use of these skills because I'm quite curious now as to the desired usages.

[Muahbec]

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SS might be useful against raid wide damage but for tank busters? Nope.
10% damage mitigation for a single target that eats a golden aetherflow stack is not worth it.
Think about it, if tank receives 7k damage it will only mitigate 700, the 6,300 damage would still need to be burst healed.
Does 10% helps?
Sure do.
But as i said, in raid wide damage, where you will use your AOE heal anyway, reducing 10% damage taken from a whole party its really useful and powerful, but using it for a single target its not worth it. E4E may be RNG but still, 20% change to trigger in every hit, and that will not reduce the damage the TANK receives it will reduce every single damage that targer deals.
You could have been more specific in your question so i wouldn't sound rude. Thank you.

[Leiloni]

You could have been more specific in your question so i wouldn't sound rude.

I thought I was specific and tried to keep it simple - RNG vs no RNG was literally my only question and Gideon nicely explained the thought process so thank you Gideon for that. It's disappointing it's not more useful. No need to continually be rude to me because you made assumptions. That's not my fault.

[Muahbec]

I thought I was specific and tried to keep it simple - RNG vs no RNG was literally my only question and Gideon nicely explained the thought process so thank you Gideon for that. It's disappointing it's not more useful. No need to continually be rude to me because you made assumptions. That's not my fault.

What? You're calling me rude? Really? I just said that you could have been more specific, how's that being rude?