People are hyping WAR's too much.

[Whiston]

I completely agree that WAR is being blown well out of proportion. There have been numerous threads on this very recently on the forums, and I really do appreciate the players who released the tank DPS video, even if quelling the irrational arguments will never happen.

I've been playing main as warrior for quite a while now. I love warrior.
If the whinging forum renegades get their way though, and somehow warrior gets nerfed to the ground, no problem! I'll just move right on to DRK and do pretty much identical damage anyways.
I'll miss a little bit of utility and I'll be taking every goad from my ninja, but I'll get the job done in the same way I always have.

And then the whiners will head on over to the next class that has a .1% statistical advantage over their counterparts and complain that their the reason they can't find a group to run with either.

[bounddreamer]

Can we talk about dem crit Equilibriums? Tossed one out yesterday in Bismarck for 5K. I thought it was a fluke until I put up another in Neverreap.

That 1.2 Equilibrium heal is a baseline. The actual heal it gives, OGC, can be quite a bit higher even non-crit.

I don't think warriors are overhyped, but I think we're in a REALLY good place right now. But good players on PLD or DRK are doing quite well so it's not like they're undesirable.

[HoodRat]

Can we talk about dem crit Equilibriums? Tossed one out yesterday in Bismarck for 5K.

You can heal for over 10k if it crits with berserk up. Almost never happens when you actually need it though, at least for me.

[Phoenicia]

Oh please, not another one of these threads.

WAR is fine as it is.

PLD is fine as it is. This is by far the safest tank and is not "bad" in any situation.

DRK is fine as it is. Though it needs some utility.

Wanna give one of the tanks something? You will have to give the other tanks something in return.

PLD will NOT deal as much DPS as WAR, nor it is supposed to. You want an instant Clemency that you can cast 3~5 times per minute thanks to Riot Blade and Sheltron because Equilibrium is oGCD? How is that fair? 3 seconds cast isn't even that long. The healers have to spend 2.5 seconds casting their heals anyways. 0.5 seconds isn't the end of the world.

Let these threads die please. It's getting out of hand.

[NFaelivrin]

Just give all tanks a means to viably restore TP IMO. It might seem like homogenization but nobody complains about homogenization when every physical DPS in the game has access to invig, so.

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

Just give all tanks a means to viably restore TP IMO.

Let's make it gimmicky!
Sword Oath: Additional effect: 3 consecutive auto attacks restore 10tp!
WHOS GOT AN IDEA FOR DRK!?

[Vurtney]

Let's make it gimmicky!
Sword Oath: Additional effect: 3 consecutive auto attacks restore 10tp!
WHOS GOT AN IDEA FOR DRK!?

Sole Survivor returns 20% of HP, MP and TP if the target dies within 15 seconds of casting but that target has to be a male Lalafell. Gimmicky enough?

[Xenosan]

I think the Warrior love is coming simply from 52-60 job ability additions being well implemented and integrated into their kit. It's a lvl60 job 'working as intended.' Many other jobs, not just the tanks, have new job abilities that are nice, but aren't well integrated (AST /cough) - penalizing or delaying their core responsibilities. These job abilities add weight that disrupts the equilibrium of the class.

[karateorangutang]

I think the Warrior love is coming simply from 52-60 job ability additions being well implemented and integrated into their kit. It's a lvl60 job 'working as intended.' Many other jobs, not just the tanks, have new job abilities that are nice, but aren't well integrated (AST /cough) - penalizing or delaying their core responsibilities. These job abilities add weight that disrupts the equilibrium of the class.

^This.

I don't read alot of hate on WAR at all. I think it's more appreciative that they have a kit that works so seamlessly.

Even if they are all even, the other tanks feel a bit clunky by comparison. There is a little bit of jealousy going on, but I haven't read alot of people screaming for WAR to get hit by the nerf bat. The other tanks just want a piece of the pie.

Alot of these threads are pretty worthless though....
Once we get another new raid and get to see its mechanics then we will really have a good vision of what is going on.

WAR is in a great place right now. DRK needs some support abilities and PLD could use some slight tweaks to make its support abilities more viable, but other than that the tank trinity isn't really broken.

[Phoenicia]

Sole Survivor returns 20% of HP, MP and TP if the target dies within 15 seconds of casting but that target has to be a male Lalafell. Gimmicky enough?

That'd be OP though. Sacrificing Lalafell already increases chances of wanted loot. As such, Sole Survivor will give 20% HP, MP, TP AND wanted loot!

I think the Warrior love is coming simply from 52-60 job ability additions being well implemented and integrated into their kit. It's a lvl60 job 'working as intended.' Many other jobs, not just the tanks, have new job abilities that are nice, but aren't well integrated (AST /cough) - penalizing or delaying their core responsibilities. These job abilities add weight that disrupts the equilibrium of the class.

Though I don't play one, BRD totally understands what you mean!

Also when speaking of clunkiness.... BLM says hi!

I guess if you look at it, the classes that REALLY got AMAZING tools are down to WAR, WHM, SMN and SCH. You can add DRG since it got good tools but are annoying to implement I guess.