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  1. #11
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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kiraan View Post
    Don't expect another round of buff before 3.06 or 3.1
    You mean if. Even if nine out of ten healers hate the job if se sees it can clear the changescontent carried or not they may go by the data of how many raid and going by how they buffed the other jobs we will most likely see only small potency changes or buffs to exsisting cooldowns in small tweaks. The job as it stands will not really change until expansion.
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    Kiraan Kosmos
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    yeah, i don't expect a huge overhaul, but yoshida said that if they need to buff us they'll do it by reinforcing our job main feature, as in Cards. I'm not sure if it means cards we'll have an impact on healing capabilities or that they'll just enhance cards potencies.

    Anyway the cards are in their hands!
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  3. #13
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    Indigo Lux
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by kiraan View Post
    yeah, i don't expect a huge overhaul, but yoshida said that if they need to buff us they'll do it by reinforcing our job main feature, as in Cards. I'm not sure if it means cards we'll have an impact on healing capabilities or that they'll just enhance cards potencies.

    Anyway the cards are in their hands!
    Most likely increase the amount the cards give. The whole point of the cards was to be able to complete content quicker - requiring less healing through boosted dps and defense. If anything they'll give a pinch more to cards and see how that mixes. Ive been able to keep up with majority of the D/PF WHM/SCH even before the i200 weapons/gear so potency tweaks would be nice, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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  4. #14
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    Cassandaria Belle
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    As someone who mains healer in general, AST is honestly fine as is. The issue is that it's not an "entry level" healing class. You can't expect it to heal like WHM OR SCH because it is neither, and it isn't even close. The lowered potency does not have as big of an impact and you have plenty of options to over come the lower potency in either sect.
    The goal for playing AST is to use ALL your toolkit, from disable to lightspeed, to using cards properly (try stacking the deck in the beginning of combat by getting a card in reserve that's buffed and spread it so you can keep ahold of it). I've rarely had mp issues after I figured how how to handle things and the combos for instant cast heal tanks faster than anything but benediction. I have not been "held back" by anything other than foolish missconceptions on what the class is capable of and people who aren't willing to take a chance on someone that knows what they are doing.
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  5. #15
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Violin View Post
    Most likely increase the amount the cards give. The whole point of the cards was to be able to complete content quicker - requiring less healing through boosted dps and defense. If anything they'll give a pinch more to cards and see how that mixes. Ive been able to keep up with majority of the D/PF WHM/SCH even before the i200 weapons/gear so potency tweaks would be nice, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
    The card definitely seem underwhelming, for being the focal point of the class.
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  6. #16
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    Leiloni Kahu
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    I'm currently leveling AST, had my first Sohm AL run as it. Tank did a bit of a foolish pull, the whole first bit. Foolish as everyone was 53 in the except him. It's a pull that can be rough to heal, but I've done it on my WHM a number of times. I thought it would be rough, but I just couldn't keep up at all. I blew through all my cool downs, got a lucky bole, and had my regeneration up, but every time bene II hit his hp was lower than the last.

    I've felt like it doesn't have the power as WHM before, but I was just shaking my head as the tank died. "What am I missing here?" as I look over my actions, nothing... that was a bad AST moment. Wiping on the first pull... I'm sure the team had faith in me after that.

    I don't care if they buff it right now, as long as something happens soon. I still main WHM and was leveling AST for some fun, but that isn't fun. Not doing that to your group.
    Without things like Divine Seal on AST I've taken to double hotting on big pulls, using both Diurnal AH and AB for extra mitigation healing instead of just AB. Starting the pull with Benefic/Benefic II to get the tank's HP up quickly and then Swiftcast AH with the AB at the end. Or also if you have Lightspeed up you can use that first for the instant AH and mana conservation. Just to get the HoTs out as fast as possible, because a fully casted AH is just way too long. Once you hit 56 you can also throw Time Dilation on him after this to extend the HoTs (longer HoTs for no mana, yay). If the tank is half decent this should be enough to allow you to mostly Benefic I spam to keep him up and you still have Benefic II and ED if you need them. Beyond that, it's a tank or dps problem, not an AST problem.

    Even without some needed healing cooldowns we can still handle big pulls, we just need to work harder. So don't feel too bad, you just had a bad group. I mean you said it yourself, the tank did a foolish pull in a group that didn't have the gear and levels to handle it. The class needs buffs for sure, but in dungeons the class is fine with normal groups. Keep going with it and just remember that every class gets bad groups sometimes.
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    Last edited by Leiloni; 08-05-2015 at 04:33 PM.

  7. #17
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    YuiSasaki's Avatar
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DkDerek View Post
    I'm a dragoon, and seeing what ASTs are dealing with disgusts me. Buff them. Just buff their potencies by like 20%. Who gives a shit. Deal with class mechanics later, when you figure it out. There are players who have invested in this class, and literally cannot play the game because of it.

    Just buff them. Make them overpowered. Nobody gives a shit at this point.
    I am AST, I DO care if they buff AST until they are broken as fuck. Thx for the thought but stick with your class.
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  8. #18
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    Kyle Drew
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    AST was my first 60. It's in storage till it is fixed. Right now it is garbage. It's worse off than drg was a year ago. Yes it can do its job, but it is not reliable. I'm not going to waste 7 other people's time playing a class that is not reliable. It isn't fun for me and isn't fun for them.
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  9. #19
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    Jojober Sylphingway
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Rewind View Post
    The beauty of healing classes is that the gear associated with the roles is shared between the three. If they "literally cannot play the game because fo it" they should probably just swap to another healing class for the time being.

    Changes take time, and telling SE just to "buff it" is stupid, because it might tilt healing too far to one spectrum and reduce the difficulty of actual difficult content.
    I mean absolutely no disrespect in saying this, but that is a terrible answer to the issue. I agree whole-heartily that change takes time, and I don't want just a buff to be mini whm/sch. But to say just switch to another healing job is ludicrous. Heck, one of the reasons fun stuff like elemental weakness was removed was to ensure certain jobs were excluded or told to change. Here's hoping we do get a little love in an area that allows us to shine not more than whm/sch, but in a different way than them. Cheers!^ ^
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  10. #20
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    @yuisasaki Lol i think you misunderstood his post.

    Im in the same dilemma. I could get accessories but then A1S drops only accessories and its the only floor we've cleared so they would go to waste. I have only 2 options, suck it up and keep maining whm for the group or try AST on savage floor 1 again and then floor 2 to see how viable it is even if my sch co healer complains lol. One fucks me over and the other fucks my static over. Boy... I hate having to make these hard decisions. I really wanna main AST.

    Thanks for the thoughts and love OP! <3
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