Who here is also burned out from farming?

[Gilthas]

All FFXIV is . Is a gear grinding game. You grind the best gear to have it replaced in 6 months . Thats all it is . I so wish that the gear ment something like in 11. There were BiS pieces that were like Lv.20 and you are LV.75 before Abyssa. You found or poped high level monsters in hopes for the gear. I have seen what 5 different sones for gear now each being replaced by the new. It gets really old really fast

I'd rather get new gear regularly than go back to FFXI's system where you'd get a new piece of gear twice per year if you were lucky. Rest of the time you were grinding for absolutely nothing just because you needed to keep your attendance up. A level 20 gear being BiS at 75 isn't proof that FFXI's system was good, quite the contrary.

FFXIV has problems, but getting new gear regularly certainly isn't it.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Gilthas: its Yoshi Ps way of giving out gears too fast. You barely get to enjoy what you have due to how fast you get some things and some things become so useless. Same goes for the relic. Also how the content doesnt have alot of backthought to it. Its more rushing out material instead of putting deeper thought. Simple this game goes to fast you cant enjoy your gear alot before its outdated and useless and thats not the way to go. I enjoyed my relics for tops 4 months thats lame. All that grind for 4 months? really?

[Gilthas]

Four months is too little time? How long exactly do you want to go on without getting new gear?

Like I already mentioned, in FFXI we got an upgrade to one of our equipment slots twice per year if we were lucky. That was complete crap and I only endured it for 3 years because I didn't know any better.

Were relics a lot of work? Certainly. I personally hated the steps that shoved the market board down your throat. But my relic didn't last only 4 months, that was just Zeta.

You speak of getting an upgrade twice a year - but that's because it takes you at least that long to actually acquire the equipment.

It's hilarious that you actually think this is a good thing.

Like I mentioned already, I endured that crap for 3 years because I didn't know any better.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Gilthas: Then you already now this is a slap to the face from Yoshi P and SE a total disrespect to everyone that dedicated so much time to get them.

[BreathlessTao]

Eh. Getting new gear so often would not be bad in itself........

But on one hand, it's gear that replaces gear that you barely even obtained. It's gear that replaces gear you have not even obtained yet - see Alex vs Eso. And this is only when you're actually able to be keeping up with the current endgame stuff.

On the other hand though, how often is a new piece of gear nothing more than a simple redye of stuffs we've already had? Since green/blue items can't normally be dyed. How often is a new piece of gear nothing more than yet another version of the same model again?

A more horizontal approach surely wouldn't hurt. Especially in a game with a "be all on one character" system at its core.

More gear for just glamour would also be nice - if the glamour system wasn't as awful and broken and restrictive as it is. And they don't seem to want to do anything about that either.

[Gilthas]

So your solution is what? No more gear upgrades like FFXI? Thanks but no thanks.

The best you can hope for is that our Zetas will give us an advantage in the first step of the new relic quest.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

BreathlessTao: how can we get him to listen then? its just casual friendly right now almost to a point where Yoshi P assumes everyone cant play this game on a more hardcore pace. Not saying everyone should do savage but everything else.

[Jayjohn]

Gilthas: Then you already now this is a slap to the face from Yoshi P and SE a total disrespect to everyone that dedicated so much time to get them.

It isn't a total disrespect at all to anyone. Getting gear is easy, time dedication to get any gear or gear up literally takes 10 hours at most to i180, then you are time gated for the i190 gear because of the weekly lockouts which you can spend 4-5 hours getting your tokens for the drops for the week. That i190 gear will have its uses until you ramp up into full esoterics/210 gear from savage which is time gated or locked behind the hardest raid for the current patch.

At most your gear will last you 6 months, which is plenty of time for you to use it.

The fact that their is always gear for you to upgrade to and you are complaining about it is idiotic.

[Alberel]

I've said this in a bunch of other threads and I'll say it again here: the burnout problem is being caused by a lack of new gameplay systems.

In most other MMOs expansions usually introduce some new form of content that is very different to what came before. Expansions don't usually just expand on the base content but they also expand on the base gameplay systems to give players fresh things to do that don't feel like anything they played so far in the game.

Unfortunately we got no such new gameplay systems in Heavensward and so people are burning out mostly because, despite the environments being different, we are still essentially doing exactly the same things as we were doing prior to the expansion. Once players clear the 50-60 MSQ they end up falling back into exactly the same routine as they had in 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5... We run roulettes for tomes, farm a few primals, maybe run a raid and get locked out.

Everything looks different and the numbers are higher, but the reality is that nothing has changed. That is why people are burning out; they're still stuck doing the exact same things they've done for the past two years!

[Recaldy]

I'm sick of it. I want something fun that lasts. Unfortunately that won't come at all it seems. PvP is a nice fix to that if they didn't remove the rank restriction for things. Little to no incentive to do any content when I'll get those items for free in a years time.

Hell, you can go through your inventory and give each piece of gear a timestamp of when it mattered. Sure most of it doesn't matter anymore right? FFXIV = paycheck to paycheck