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  1. #61
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Wait until many steps of the new relic quests is out before assuming materia V as useless.
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  2. #62
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    DarthBuzzer's Avatar
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    Blueberry Bandit
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    Phoenix
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Wait until many steps of the new relic quests is out before assuming materia V as useless.
    If it has no use now, then it is by definition useless.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    I never understood where this huge pay wall is at for leveling a craft. There is too many ways to level up a craft that doesn't involve a whole lot of gil. If that was the case ppl the say that are accusing pimped out crafter of gil buying. :/ omni crafters started just as poor as anyone.
    The gil wall is in overmelds and endgame mats, not in the leveling process.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyyto View Post
    Oh I see, crafters invented the system right?
    Lmao.
    No, but they certainly campaigned for it. Which is why it was added and most of the playerbase got screwed over.
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    Last edited by Gilthas; 08-05-2015 at 02:41 AM.

  4. #64
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    I never understood where this huge pay wall is at for leveling a craft. There is too many ways to level up a craft that doesn't involve a whole lot of gil. If that was the case ppl the say that are accusing pimped out crafter of gil buying. :/ omni crafters started just as poor as anyone.
    Leveling up crafting and collecting all the materials needed for it once there takes either a lot of gil or a lot of time. The ones who reach the top first and therefore gain the chance to momentarily act like near-monopolies (at least until a bunch of other crafters catch up to them) are among the ones who do it with a lot of gil.
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  5. #65
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Why do crafters need to feel important to endgame raiders? I really cannot understand this. I don't want to have to depend on crafters, and now that we are finally in this situation of not needing them and their nice prices, so much crafter qq. Can't u be happy making housing items and glamour prisms?

    Why do you hate crafters so much that you have to make this argument in every single topic? Did a crafter ntr your girlfriend?



    And why do you make this argument time and time again despite having millions yourself?
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  6. #66
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    Bishop81's Avatar
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    Eldon Pierce
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Leveling up crafting and collecting all the materials needed for it once there takes either a lot of gil or a lot of time. The ones who reach the top first and therefore gain the chance to momentarily act like near-monopolies (at least until a bunch of other crafters catch up to them) are among the ones who do it with a lot of gil.
    And guess what? They have to earn back the "a lot of gil" they spend levelling up?

    What you think they got rich by spending gil nilly willy? They are investing. They are spending money to (hopefully) make more money.
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