This is absolutely ridiculous (DPS CHECK RANT)

[Malevicton]

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A blm can't heal through autoattacks for anything 50+. The type fo thing you're describing can only really happen in leveling roulette, and I don't think anyone cares about parses in a leveling roulette.

I've seen a few blm who thought they were assisting heals through a clutch moment, but they were just contributing to overhealing. It's just not a thing. Physick is only helpful in low level dungeons and for solo content.

And your last 3 paragraphs were just insults to a very general group of people. That's not gonna swing anybody to your side.

[Sapphic]

that is where you and me differ in vision, what is important is success of the fight, if someone has to step aside of what is his normal role, albeit Healing is also something a BLM can do isnt it ? therefore is also an ability that can be used right ?

If you still played the game or had at least done end game content you would know your comments make no sense. right?

People want parserrs when they AREN'T clearing content due to failed DPS checks. They wan't to know where improvements and adjustments are needeed, right?

Come back when you are playing FFXIV again and, like some in this post, are stuck on content because players are underperfoming at their role and preventing success in the fight.

[scarebearz]

that is where you and me differ in vision, what is important is success of the fight, if someone has to step aside of what is his normal role, albeit Healing is also something a BLM can do isnt it ? therefore is also an ability that can be used right ? why would you complain about that ? you prefer to whipe then have someone contribute TO THE GROUP (keep in mind you are playing with a group that wants what you want win) by stepping aside for a short moment or longer one to help the group to win even if that means less power...how more silly can it be...dont you think you have a problem of mentality and in this example, your parser will tell you how low the dps was and, as you just wrote, how bad the BLM is because he was helping with Healing now and then maybe even more then now and then and not tell you that if you made it to a win, maybe with more difficulties, it was because of that BLM helping out another fellow GROUP (note the GROUP) member. For people like you, or rather of your same mindset, the parser will just be a tool to be used to throw out of a group others that do not do what YOU want them to do simply because you are incapacitated to see the whole picture....you sure you want to play with a group?

That is what I am trying to say, parsers will give you dry figures of what your dps, skills and what not are, but the numbers dont tell you the contribution of the person TO the group no matter what said person decided to do for the good of the group, e.g. my example and that maybe is because of that guy that you made it to a win or lastest longer to give an opportunity to make it...ever thought about that ?

I swear people just cant think otherwise then seeind DPS = high number when any job/class has so many variables...sad if you ask me that to you someone that uses an ability HE HAS got, no matter the reason, in my example a secondary one, equates to being bad. Silly judgement dont you think.

This is also the reason why these kind of discussion are totaly sterile, two sides often then not incapable of making an averted judgement on someone else's capacities/abilities because so certain that THEIR vision is the only viable, as long as this doesnt change, there will remain the superiority complex, we arent all copied pasted people, a poor performance today may be a wonderful tomorrow and even worse day after....we are human and using a mechanical tool (well even if virtual) to judge the performance of someone has never been working...there are too many variables that itnerfers even more so where human and technology meet so closely like a virtual game.

Just me though, you can continue to be convinced that you sole are right, personalyl I would like a parser but not with the type of immature, uneducated players we have around here, that cant even talk with others without using bad words every two otehrs words (in-game that is) on the Forum is strictly forbidden to insult so people pay more attention.

Mei

Do you even have a class at lvl 60? As it sounds like you have no idea what your talking about to be honest.

If any BLM is "healing" frequently at 60 they are bad.

As a lvl 60 BLM my heals do 450 hp, tanks at 60 have around 20,000 hp.

Apart from when a boss jumps, heals should never be used.

Trying to justify reasons for people playing bad does not change the fact that they are playing bad xD

[Radacci]

that is where you and me differ in vision, what is important is success of the fight, if someone has to step aside of what is his normal role, albeit Healing is also something a BLM can do isnt it ? therefore is also an ability that can be used right ?

uhm, there's 3 roles. BLM is a damage dealer, and should do damage. there's no content whatsoever, that requires a blm to heal. if a blm heals, it reduces dps, and makes the fight take longer.
if you're a blm and healing, you're NOT contributing to the party....you fail to do damage, which is what a BLM should do, and your heals are so weak, you couldn't even keep anyone up for a normal mob.

That is what I am trying to say, parsers will give you dry figures of what your dps, skills and what not are, but the numbers dont tell you the contribution of the person TO the group no matter what said person decided to do for the good of the group, e.g. my example and that maybe is because of that guy that you made it to a win or lastest longer to give an opportunity to make it...ever thought about that ?

if you're a healer, and healing, you're contributing to the group.
if you're a damage dealer, and doing damage, you're contributing to the group. if you're a DD and don't meet the minimum requirements, you're NOT contributing - you're holding everyone back. if you don't meet the min req, you can't clear the content, and you're just wasting time, trying...it's common curtsey to meet the minimum requirements, and not waste other ppls time...

so certain that THEIR vision is the only viable

yes...that's what you're doing too, except your comments don't have any logic in them...asking blm to heal....at best the healing skill they can use, can help you cut down on the time it takes you to get back HP, between fighting normal mobs - not during.

[dekal]

Haha that person has syxh interesting POV

[Erim-Nelhah]

Here we're talking about like fractional dps loss.... people doing optimal rotations getting fractions of seconds of clipping aren't the people doing dps that is half of the other dps in the group.

This is also true. Having a good rotation with clipping is better than having a bad one without.

As a response to both you and the other guy who quoted me: I was simply pointing out that "your best rotation is always the same regardless of gear" is wrong.

--Erim Nelhah

[Malevicton]

Okay I know this is off topic, but what's the deal with people manually signing all of their posts?

[dragorian]

Sadly, you are a rare breed. Far too often dps either don't know their rotations, don't care, or hope they can just skirt by with the group. The coil had squashed the hopes and dreams of a lot of those people back in the day, but with each patch and nerf they come back out, hoping they might slide through. Expansion has been no different, worse even. I can't count how many "clear" groups I have to suffer through before I finally find the group that is actually serious, and not populated full of twats who think they can hide among the other 3 dps.

I could not agree more even in rav ex I put up clear grp and have not got past final lib it's to a point where I'm just going to give up and get eso wep and wait until nerf and then some day beat it ppl just don't want to learn and try they expect to get carried

[Noira]

As a ps4 player I would love an official personal or official pre formed party parser (could also have the ability to intiate a vote, if majority rules then parser is turned on).

Mostly because I'm the type of person that assumes they are bad and holding the party back, even when it isn't me. (I got perfectionistic issues so tend to flip out if I think I'm messing up)

IT would be nice to know if I'm somewhat okay at the role I'm playing or need to improve a bit.

[Erim-Nelhah]

Okay I know this is off topic, but what's the deal with people manually signing all of their posts?

To me, it's like signing a letter, Maleviction. Mostly habit, but it also encourages me to re-read what I wrote, since I'm gonna sign it. Here, it's also an "I'm done" indicator, given that if I post something even a little bit "long" I have to edit the post to get it all in.

Not only that....have you ever used the edit feature then clicked "go advanced"? If not, you've probably never noticed that editing in advanced mode removes your default signature.

--Erim Nelhah