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    Reinha's Avatar
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    The duty finder change will not increase unjust kicks (people who like to kick for banter's sake are already doing so), but it will reduce trolls rejoining the same instance AND (if the penalty is not per instance but for re-queuing) get rid of kick beggers who want to circumvent the penalty. Sounds good to me! Just report unjust kicks like you would have before.

    I think true unjust kicking is very rare anyway. Yes it can be frustrating to get a penalty if you're completely innocent, but I imagine that in most of the "unjust" cases there is a reason for the kick that the kicked person doesn't realise. Some possible reasons for kicking could be: making things harder for the group with knockback or pulling before tank etc, pulling extra mobs and wiping the group, trolling with encounter mechanics (like that guy who likes to eat all fruits in Aurum Vale), refusing to play the intended role for the class, playing so badly the group cannot progress, being cheeky or rude or spamming the chat with some nonsense. Or even just constantly falling back so you're not contributing or people have to wait for you. These all fall in the category of "playstyle differences" and are justified reasons to kick.

    Consider this: out of all the ways you can make the dungeon hell to your team members, only being verbally rude is punishable! I don't think it's right in an MMO that someone can act like a total c*** and get away with with no penalty whatsoever and, in the case of tanks and healers, even get an instant queue pop right away.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 08-04-2015 at 09:40 PM.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    The duty finder change will not increase unjust kicks (people who like to kick for banter's sake are already doing so), but it will reduce trolls rejoining the same instance AND (if the penalty is not per instance but for re-queuing) get rid of kick beggers who want to circumvent the penalty. Sounds good to me! Just report unjust kicks like you would have before.
    That's how I see it and why I don't see the problem. I've only been kicked once in the entirety of ARR's (and HW's now) life span and that one was kind of justified. I said I had one more attempt left in me, but instead of doing that one attempt, the WHM and I argued (they apparently disliked me for standing behind them, which made them move out of Titan's Landslide AoE if I was targeted... which then had them say I sucked at being a BLM, which unfortunately goaded me into arguing) and I was booted.
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