Please Fix Astrologians!

[Aethaeryn]

They need to do something about their party bonus too. :\

It's not really a class that's "capable of filling either role fluidly" if they are fighting with SCH for spots in raids because they offer the same party bonus.

What...? Is that really a problem? "Sorry, Mr. Astro. We'd let you join our static, but we already have a sch giving us bonus piety and we really need the mind bonus from a white mage!" I guess for a small boost to cleric stance deeps...?

[Selli]

What...? Is that really a problem? "Sorry, Mr. Astro. We'd let you join our static, but we already have a sch giving us bonus piety and we really need the mind bonus from a white mage!" I guess for a small boost to cleric stance deeps...?

Yes it is.

It was a thing when BisEXual and Rav EX were the only end-game content we had. The PFs would be say WHM and SCH/AST. I've seen leaders deny AST's when they already had a SCH in the party. And it's not for Cleric Stance, it's for heals. The party bonus is nearly 30 mind (iirc it's 26?), and that's basically like having another accessory. It has definitely gotten worse with Savage, as most parties I see won't even accept ASTs for A1.

[EDIT] It's a raider thing, really. You probably won't encounter it as frequently for Bis and Rav now (especially not if the PF min ilevel is 190, LOL), and it certainly doesn't apply to level 50 content (it's done as an undersized party most of the time, anyway). But when fights are new and people are still progressing, yeah, this type of thing becomes an issue.