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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    All 3 melee DPS DO have timers to manage.
    what does NIN and DRG stack like Grease Lightning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    what does NIN and DRG stack like Grease Lightning?
    blood of the dragon for dragoon which will fall off if the dragoon is unable to attack
    Huton for ninja, though huton lasts a lot longer
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Rikkustrife View Post
    blood of the dragon for dragoon which will fall off if the dragoon is unable to attack
    Huton for ninja, though huton lasts a lot longer
    those things do not stack. although adding BotD to DRG and positionals to NIN does make those jobs all more similar to each other as well which is also not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    those things do not stack. although adding BotD to DRG and positionals to NIN does make those jobs all more similar to each other as well which is also not good.


    So you're basically saying Huton and BotD doesn't matter.



    ok.

    Anyways:
    Please stop comparing Machinist and Black Mages to Bards.
    Machinist was created with GB in mind, and is more "easier" to use (assuming you know what to do with your Ammo/oGCDs).
    Black Mages is far more complex as you have to manage ENOCHAIN and utilizing Ley Lines to its maximum.

    Bards have a 1.5s cast. 1.46s assuming you're i180.
    Black Mages have around 2-4 second cast (assuming you still use Flare...I believe Fire/Blizzard IV is 3s?)


    So please. staph. .-.
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    Last edited by UltimateAoe2; 08-04-2015 at 01:58 AM.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    So you're basically saying Huton and BotD doesn't matter.



    ok.
    i didn't say they don't matter. keeping one buff timer up is not the same as keeping GL stacks and rebuilding the stacks back up to 3 if they fall off.

    the MNK mechanic is specifically building up stacks not just keeping the timer up.
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    Anyways:
    Please stop comparing Machinist and Black Mages to Bards.
    i'll stop when the game has a Ranged DPS that doesn't have Cast Times to do max DPS or someone can give a good reason why the game has no room for any other mechanic.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    i'll stop when the game has a Ranged DPS that doesn't have Cast Times to do max DPS or someone can give a good reason why the game has no room for any other mechanic.
    Just think of it as taking aim for the enemies weak spot and hitting your mark at all times. The only other two alternatives I can think of that allows you to have a 30% boost without cast bars is...
    • Wanderer's Minuet requires MP to remain active and takes more MP than Foe's Requium.
    • Wanderer's Minuet doesn't require MP, still gives you 30% damage buff, let's you use Empyrean Arrow, Iron Jaws and allows you to run around... but drops your accuracy massively.
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    Son Tensei
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    Archer Lv 60
    I played bard main i beat everyone on dps in alex farming on multiple occasions. beat a1s and was 3rd in dps on my group and i think im pretty good.
    but i quit bard. its no fun anymore. now im a healer.
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