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  1. #151
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    Its things like this that reaffirm my choice to play a healer.
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  2. #152
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    The issue with the personal parser argument is that the numbers are meaningless without a point of reference, and the people that don't use WM or Fire IV or whatever probably aren't going to seek that point of reference out.
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    Shila Lail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylentmana View Post
    Its things like this that reaffirm my choice to play a healer.
    I have bad news for you :P
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  4. #154
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    Mercutial Zenos
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    Going by the sample size offered by this Forum, you would think 99% of the player base is actually elite. Sooooo many baddies, yet nary a one represented after 16 pages of chest-thumping.

    Keep in mind how relative "skill" is. Every poster here will suck compared to someone else out there. That's a fact. Unless someone wants to step up as the VERY best FF14 has to offer. Takers?
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  5. #155
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Put a submenu to the dummy and set every dummy with the same amount of HP depending on the item level of the player activating it.
    Select a time (1mn, 3mn, 5mn...) or leave the default time.
    Try to beat the dummy as much times as possible.
    Each time you beat the dummy, you get a stacking buff icon that do nothing and stay for, say, 10mn. Each buff icon differs depending on the time you selected.
    Compare your number of stacks with other players.
    Optional: Earn achievements/titles/glamour stuff depending on your performance.

    We would now have an "ingame parser" in the form of a nice little "minigame" of its own which allows players to quicky have a glance at other's people numbers without the need of an actual and super accurate DPS number.
    Then, just put an option on PF restrictions regarding the number of stacks needed to enter a party.

    Problem solved.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 08-04-2015 at 01:01 AM. Reason: adjustments

  6. #156
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    Happo Sai
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    Lamia
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The issue with the personal parser argument is that the numbers are meaningless without a point of reference, and the people that don't use WM or Fire IV or whatever probably aren't going to seek that point of reference out.
    This is the exact type of over generalization I was talking about. I keep enochian up most of the time (poop happens oops), ive researched my class in great detail and I look up the suggested dps requirements for certain contents. But without a personal parser that information has limited value. When i mess up in clear parties i always own up to my mistakes and offer to leave. That has yet to actually happen. I usually get a response like "trust me, youre doing fine". Having a personal parser would help me personally push my own limits and work towards goals. I have no intention of attempting Alex savage till I can push a consistent 1100+ dps as a blm while handling mechanics. Oh yea I have no way of measuring that....
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  7. #157
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    Going by the sample size offered by this Forum, you would think 99% of the player base is actually elite. Sooooo many baddies, yet nary a one represented after 16 pages of chest-thumping.

    Keep in mind how relative "skill" is. Every poster here will suck compared to someone else out there. That's a fact. Unless someone wants to step up as the VERY best FF14 has to offer. Takers?
    Quoting myself from a similar topic:

    "There's a difference between not being lucrezia-level and being a 320 dps ice mage. You knew what I was talking about. Sure, relativity is a thing, but a lot of people are just legitimately terrible."

    Yeah, there's always a bigger fish, but not everything is relative. If you can't perform the fundamental mechanics of your class, then that's bad. Someone worse than you doesn't make you good in that case. Similarly you can be good without being world-first.
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    Last edited by Malevicton; 08-04-2015 at 12:32 AM. Reason: words r hard SE plz nerf
    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  8. #158
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    Going by the sample size offered by this Forum, you would think 99% of the player base is actually elite. Sooooo many baddies, yet nary a one represented after 16 pages of chest-thumping.

    Keep in mind how relative "skill" is. Every poster here will suck compared to someone else out there. That's a fact. Unless someone wants to step up as the VERY best FF14 has to offer. Takers?
    This is a foolish comment. At no point did anyone claim to be the best, or say anyone had to be. But people do want others in their party to be able to pass dps checks. In no way do you have to be ultra elite mega pro to pass BEX dps checks in full Law, which most should easily have by now. You only should need to be mediocre at best. The point is, so many can't even do this, and most of them have no way of even knowing if they are.

    Turning it around and saying everyone posting is claiming to be the best in the game is ignoring the whole issue and putting your head up your butt. Especially given the post four above yours.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 08-04-2015 at 12:39 AM.

  9. #159
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    In no way do you have to be ultra elite mega pro to pass BEX dps checks in full Law, which most should easily have by now. You only should need to be mediocre at best. The point is, so many can't even do this, and most of them have no way of even knowing if they are.


    You shouldnt have to but peopel want you to because they have such a high opinion of their own abilities and consider themselves so mighty up that anything else that is not like them is by definition bad, ergo why parsers shouldnt be allowed, they are Tools for level-headed people that know what it is meant for and uses that type of material wisely, MOST of the FFXIV community is made of immature, egocentrique, selfish people that only see themselves when ina group and forget that being part of a group means something that you all forget, the weaker link, not necesseraly the badest, needs the rest to get through, if someone is low, the rest that is sooo good rom what they say, should compensate and be done and over with, no buts, no ifs.

    Someone said that if a group is failing because one person then group should get rid of that one person, well news to you, in a group the fault of a failure is NOT on the shoulder of one person, only, is a group work and as such is the failure of all, be it by a small contribution to that failure or a big contribution, might want to think of this before going to try and demand something just to be able to point fingers (not aiming at you as you Whiteroom)

    Mei
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  10. #160
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    Someone said that if a group is failing because one person then group should get rid of that one person, well news to you, in a group the fault of a failure is NOT on the shoulder of one person, only, is a group work and as such is the failure of all, be it by a small contribution to that failure or a big contribution, might want to think of this before going to try and demand something just to be able to point fingers (not aiming at you as you Whiteroom)

    Mei
    So if you have 3 dps at 750+ and one at 200, it's everyone's fault?
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

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