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  1. #311
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    they honestly need to do something about that lb thing, its the only thing that really bothers me is that lb advantage.
    Have your MCH/BRD LB. Oh wait...

    Honestly it makes no friggin sense that MCH/BRD's lb does less damage than caster's in my opinion...
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  2. #312
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    they honestly need to do something about that lb thing, its the only thing that really bothers me is that lb advantage.
    That'd require a really heavy shift of BLM play. It works for SMN because their damage is largely tied to DoTs, pets, and CDs - missing filler isn't a big deal. BLM, you have to ABC, there's no workaround, and honestly no class gets off as easy as SMN does.

    They kind of did produce a questionable workaround though ... I believe having BRD/MCH LB3 is better than a BLM LB3, within reason, even though you lose a couple thousand damage difference. Especially if it's timed so it's just BRD/MCH's filler, without significant CDs up. Easier said than done for BRD, though.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 08-02-2015 at 02:29 AM.

  3. #313
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    Arthurherb Fonzarelli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Also. We do not use LB during the the tornado add phase. We clear it raw damage and use caster LB3 later.

    On another note, here's my 4 minutes single target on dummy; 4 Minutes dummy parse

    Please take note that extra 3 seconds happened because I had a thunder DoT left, I was at 1300 DPS. This is no party, Draconian Potion + Creme Brulee.

    This is the gear I was using; http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R5LB
    Here's my 4 min for what it's worth. Not 1300 but think the best I can do with current gear. I use Food: Sohm Al Tart HQ and x-pot int HQ
    Parse:
    Gear: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R5N9
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  4. #314
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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    I used Draconian and Creme Brulee so there's a difference here. I also probably got more gear than you. I have 3 210 pieces rawr.
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    Last edited by Aikaal; 08-02-2015 at 04:14 AM.

  5. #315
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    Lavitz Bale
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    Any reason why everyone is going for 4 minutes now? Wouldn't 3 or 6 be better for BLMs since it lets you stop when Raging and Ley Lines come off cooldown? It doesn't make sense to me, unless it's just to be more comparable to physical DPS who run out of TP around 4 minutes.
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    Last edited by Lavitz_; 08-02-2015 at 07:43 AM.

  6. #316
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavitz_ View Post
    Any reason why everyone is going for 4 minutes now? Wouldn't 3 or 6 be better for BLMs since it lets you stop when Raging and Ley Lines come off cooldown? It doesn't make sense to me, unless it's just to be more comparable to physical DPS who run out of TP around 4 minutes.
    Well, for BLM it's smoother to wait a bit longer than 3m because it's best to have a full, fresh Enochian rotation for RS + Convert + Leylines (maybe you can do that if you Enochian rotation 3 of first minute? IDK, never tried).

    IDK, definitely don't want 3m sharp, you would literally get one RS and be at the low-point of your DPS. Same for a lot of classes with big CDs at the 90s mark. 6m would be very unrealistic, most TP users can't even make it to 4m without going out of TP so it wouldn't serve much purpose. I think around 4m is just that happy medium.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 08-02-2015 at 08:32 AM.

  7. #317
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    Doctor Fumbles
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    I don't plan to do any 8 heavy man content yet since I just hit 60 on my BLM, but would the damage be decent enough for expert runs to F4 then F1 to keep AF3 up instead of F4x2 and have a chance for it to fall off?
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  8. #318
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    From what I've seen, it tracks the players that use TP. If they have bad TP management then they'll underperform. I could have ended it at 3 minutes but I'd rather set my conditions to everybody since BLM can go indefinitely. As far as I know, only Ninjas have TP issues. They have the lowest TP regen cooldowns and ironically have Goad they can't use on themself.
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  9. #319
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    From what I've seen, it tracks the players that use TP. If they have bad TP management then they'll underperform. I could have ended it at 3 minutes but I'd rather set my conditions to everybody since BLM can go indefinitely. As far as I know, only Ninjas have TP issues. They have the lowest TP regen cooldowns and ironically have Goad they can't use on themself.
    Party Member : Goad Please

    Ninja: Sure *goads*

    *2:45 sec later*

    Ninja: TP please

    *bard/mch gives no tp*

    *inches closer and closer to 0*

    Ninja: *thinks to himself* "*sigh* fine i'll bottom out til invig comes back >.>"
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    As a new 60 BLM, I think I've pinpointed my greatest challenge being the fight against my ingrained habit of wanting to use procs ASAP following my next hard cast as a fireweaving tool. When I screw up my rotation, it's almost invariably because I allowed an active proc to throw off my timing when I would have done better by allowing it to fall off or waiting to use it.

    The rotation itself is not really more difficult to execute than the old one was, but the handling of procs combined with the shift to monitoring and maintaining both Enochian and AF/UI is definitely a bit of a shift in play style.
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