how to get <lord's clogs> shoes and <yukata> armor?

[Gunspec]

... Really? Ugh... That's... I'm playing a freaking sub mmo...

Yeah, for the first year of 2.0, all old holiday items were available from an in-game vendor for a few gil during the correct holiday season. Then mogstation optional items launched, and they greedily added all of the holiday items there instead. Reindeer and santa outfits, 1.0 yukatas, 1.0 pumpkin heads, 1.0 egg accessories and new year's helmets... I got them all free despite not playing 1.0. Now those items add up to about $60 on mogstation.

[Naunet]

Yeah, for the first year of 2.0, all old holiday items were available from an in-game vendor for a few gil during the correct holiday season. Then mogstation optional items launched, and they greedily added all of the holiday items there instead. Reindeer and santa outfits, 1.0 yukatas, 1.0 pumpkin heads, 1.0 egg accessories and new year's helmets... I got them all free despite not playing 1.0. Now those items add up to about $60 on mogstation.

Yeah, I got them on this character back in ARR. :/ When I came back after having quit for a bit, I decided to reroll, cause my friend had switched servers and I wanted a fresh start...

... Really annoyed to learn that SE expects me to pay freaking real money for that crap. Even Blizzard, in all their moneygrabbing, doesn't do that. This is a subscription MMO, SE, NOT a f2p game.

[edit] Actually, annoyance doesn't even begin to cover it. This is unacceptable.

[NamanoNanaya]

Yeah, I got them on this character back in ARR. :/ When I came back after having quit for a bit, I decided to reroll, cause my friend had switched servers and I wanted a fresh start...

... Really annoyed to learn that SE expects me to pay freaking real money for that crap. Even Blizzard, in all their moneygrabbing, doesn't do that. This is a subscription MMO, SE, NOT a f2p game.

[edit] Actually, annoyance doesn't even begin to cover it. This is unacceptable.

No reason to be annoyed, you had your chance and you got it. Nobody made you re-roll or risk losing everything that is always character bound straight from the get go

[Naunet]

No reason to be annoyed, you had your chance and you got it. Nobody made you re-roll or risk losing everything that is always character bound straight from the get go

Bull. In a F2P game, this would be... not really enjoyable but within the realm of expectation. This is, however, a subscription-based MMO. There is NO excuse to lock all those items behind a cash shop. None. It's bad enough my new character can't get the Lightning event stuff (really, really should be account-bound), but for SE to then laugh and say, "Oh you thought you were playing a sub MMO? Nah, we just want even more of your money!" That's... no. No other sub-based MMO does this with their freaking holiday gear. Even Blizzard, as they continue to expand their cash shop in really unsettling ways, doesn't do this. This is very nearly unsub-immediately levels of horrible.

[Felis]

There is NO excuse to lock all those items behind a cash shop. None. It's bad enough my new character can't get the Lightning event stuff

Then you should be happy that the Lightning event stuff is not even in the cash shop ^^
SE is not obliged to bring old event items again in the first place.
During 1.0, if you missed an event then you couldn't get the item next year and not from a cash shop. You just missed it.

I remember that SE said 1.0 event items wouldn't be available in 2.x. Then they were, and 1.0 players were outraged.

seasonal events =/= 7th umbral one-time events

[Cakekizy]

Bull. In a F2P game, this would be... not really enjoyable but within the realm of expectation. This is, however, a subscription-based MMO. There is NO excuse to lock all those items behind a cash shop. None. It's bad enough my new character can't get the Lightning event stuff (really, really should be account-bound), but for SE to then laugh and say, "Oh you thought you were playing a sub MMO? Nah, we just want even more of your money!" That's... no. No other sub-based MMO does this with their freaking holiday gear. Even Blizzard, as they continue to expand their cash shop in really unsettling ways, doesn't do this. This is very nearly unsub-immediately levels of horrible.

Obviously you never seen the Station Cash store in EQ.

[Arrelaine]

Yeah, I got them on this character back in ARR. :/ When I came back after having quit for a bit, I decided to reroll, cause my friend had switched servers and I wanted a fresh start...

... Really annoyed to learn that SE expects me to pay freaking real money for that crap. Even Blizzard, in all their moneygrabbing, doesn't do that. This is a subscription MMO, SE, NOT a f2p game.

[edit] Actually, annoyance doesn't even begin to cover it. This is unacceptable.

Blizzard does have a cash shop. They don't really have as many events with as many cosmetic items, either. Otherwise, they probably would do the same thing, and they do have cosmetic things in the shop. Last I left, they had those helms in there and planning to add more. Almost every MMO sub or no, has a cash shop now. While I don't really like it, everyone is essentially following the model Blizzard created.

[Naunet]

Blizzard does have a cash shop. They don't really have as many events with as many cosmetic items, either. Otherwise, they probably would do the same thing, and they do have cosmetic things in the shop. Last I left, they had those helms in there and planning to add more. Almost every MMO sub or no, has a cash shop now. While I don't really like it, everyone is essentially following the model Blizzard created.

I am fully aware Blizzard has a cash shop. I was pointing out specifically that they do not put old event items up on the cash shop. You can always obtain them in-game from year to year to year.

No matter which way you cut it, this is absurd on SE's part. Old event items were previously obtainable with gil. They deliberately removed them and changed it so they could not be. That is NOT a good thing.

[basketofseals]

I am fully aware Blizzard has a cash shop. I was pointing out specifically that they do not put old event items up on the cash shop. You can always obtain them in-game from year to year to year.

No matter which way you cut it, this is absurd on SE's part. Old event items were previously obtainable with gil. They deliberately removed them and changed it so they could not be. That is NOT a good thing.

The way Blizzard does it is MUCH MUCH worse. Certain items that are not from yearly events are simply 100% unobtainable, even if that gear has a unique look.

In this expansion they flooded their cash shop with mounts that should CLEARLY be available in game. One example is the faerie dragon mount. You see NPCs using this mount all the time, and when you complete their faction's reputation grind you're rewarded with the ability to purchase......a reskinned wolf. To get the mount you have to shell out TWENTY DOLLARS.

[Naunet]

The way Blizzard does it is MUCH MUCH worse. Certain items that are not from yearly events are simply 100% unobtainable, even if that gear has a unique look.

At least they didn't REMOVE ITEMS FROM THE GAME to put them on the cash shop, as SE has done.

Gunspec explained this clearly. In 2.0 we could obtain both old items and new holiday items with gil. SE then decided to REMOVE all of those items from the game so that they could sell them on a cash shop. It's disgusting.