I lost my motivation, Can you help me find it?

[DragonHunterG]

I just re-subscribed yesterday

now, i took about a 3 month break, came back about a month ago and boom i'm at it again. thats why i always tell people, if you're not enjoying the game for whatever reason, dont force yourself to play it. take a break. if you come back, cool. if not, you probably found something else you enjoy just as much!

[Ashkendor]

You kinda shoot your argument, right or wrong, in the foot right from the start with the bolded portion.

That one word aside, he does have a point. There's a good measure of perceptual bias involved in using something like the number of complaint threads (or even the number of responses and/or "likes" on those threads) on the official forums as proof that the devs are doing something wrong. The fact that there's more complaint threads isn't necessarily indicative of some fundamental flaw with the expansion or even that people are generally unsatisfied with it. It could simply be because we have more players now than we did before Heavensward. A larger playerbase means there's more people to potentially dislike something and complain about it. Not to mention, the forums don't represent the majority of the populace, as typically only a small portion of an MMO's playerbase actually uses the official forums. You can't discount the fact that people don't typically speak up when they're happy with something, either. When people are happy with a product or service, they usually just enjoy it. Few go out of their way to give kudos to the devs for things they like, but if they dislike something, they're apt to speak up.

Food for thought, in any case. :3

[Iromi]

I just re-subscribed yesterday

now, i took about a 3 month break, came back about a month ago and boom i'm at it again. thats why i always tell people, if you're not enjoying the game for whatever reason, dont force yourself to play it. take a break. if you come back, cool. if not, you probably found something else you enjoy just as much!

I don't like how this is a very acceptable approach. It's okay to take breaks, I agree with that..from anything in life. But usually a fun hobby no one really wants or needs a break from entirely, maybe for a week or so..but months? Even when coming back..its the SAME THING over and over..same tomes, same 4 raids, same dungeons roulette! It is not like there is a ton of new stuff that we missed out on and get to try

[Ayanno]

That one word aside, he does have a point. There's a good measure of perceptual bias involved in using something like the number of complaint threads (or even the number of responses and/or "likes" on those threads) on the official forums as proof that the devs are doing something wrong. The fact that there's more complaint threads isn't necessarily indicative of some fundamental flaw with the expansion or even that people are generally unsatisfied with it. It could simply be because we have more players now than we did before Heavensward. A larger playerbase means there's more people to potentially dislike something and complain about it. Not to mention, the forums don't represent the majority of the populace, as typically only a small portion of an MMO's playerbase actually uses the official forums. You can't discount the fact that people don't typically speak up when they're happy with something, either. When people are happy with a product or service, they usually just enjoy it. Few go out of their way to give kudos to the devs for things they like, but if they dislike something, they're apt to speak up.

Food for thought, in any case. :3

Truth, and the poster I quoted did make a good counter point.

However, I believe that forums can be used to gain a feel of how things are going, good and bad. It cannot simply be dismissed. When there is a sudden up turn in valid, well thought out criticisms being brought forth, on the forums, in polls, twitter or facebook or wherever, one must stop and take serious look at the "why?".

There will always be complainers and whiners that are screaming "the sky is falling!!" every chance they get. There will also always be those who give well thought out examples outlining the problems they feel the game has.

My point from first post was that, with the expansion barely a month old and we're seeing more and more well thought out criticisms of the game, there may in fact be an issue.

I'm not counting the BOW MAGE!! amongst us in this observation, as one must separate them to get an accurate feeling for things, even if it's just a small sample of the much larger whole.

[Jayjohn]

I don't like how this is a very acceptable approach. It's okay to take breaks, I agree with that..from anything in life. But usually a fun hobby no one really wants or needs a break from entirely, maybe for a week or so..but months? Even when coming back..its the SAME THING over and over..same tomes, same 4 raids, same dungeons roulette! It is not like there is a ton of new stuff that we missed out on and get to try

You might wanna change how you perceive this game as a hobby. Gaming is a hobby bug FFXIV is small part of vast part that hobby.

Also your hobbies will continue to stay the same even after you take a break from it.

[MageBlack]

I'm not worried, maybe its just me. I watched 2.0 evolve with each patch, adding in so much content and new systems, etc. as long as 3.0 follows that same pattern of releasing more content with each patch, I'm fine with it. I actually missed the part where, if I play this game, I'm not allowed to play any other game. I didnt realize this was supposed to be a monogamous relationship.

[SevenHeavens]

They should rename the general forum to cry baby corner.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

They should rename the general forum to cry baby corner.

Pretty much.

[Lux_Rayna]

It takes like 10 major patches to produce the amount of content that 2.0 finished with. You can't seriously expect a bunch of new things to do on the patch that introduces the expansion. New jobs take a ridiculous amount of resources, as does a bunch of new quests/storyline/fates. You won't get the "bells and whistles" of 3.0 until further along its patch cycle. The exact same process happens with every MMO I've ever played. Introduce new areas/races/jobs in the expansion, then add all the awesome stuff later once the kinks are worked out.

I mean if this was 3.5-3.9 I could see the gripe.

[LucienFaust]

I know right but one thing I have realized it's usualy the same 5-10 people complaining they really should you look elswhere to find a game that is right for them rather then trying to keep this place down in the dumps I for one I like to go on reddit a lot more fun there that is for sure. I for one enjoy this game a lot and I look forward to what other content they add in future patches that story cliffhanger!