Party Rushing as I Watch Cutscenes

[trigh1]

Yeah I was very frustrated when it came to those final 2 8man dungeons. I didn't experience any of the encounters as I literally entered the dungeon and watched cut scenes until it was over (in Praetorium anyway). By the time I got through the cut scenes, Ultima was dead and there was one other guy left with me who also didn't even enter combat, lol.

I wasn't cursing out the players however, I was pissed off that SE thought it was a good idea to put 30 minutes of cut scenes into an 8 player dungeon!! I mean really!?!!? Everything was great up to that point; I was extremely disappointed by the way it was handled.

Basically if you are a new player to this game, you will NOT be able to enjoy the end of MSQ 2.0 content as it was intended to be enjoyed without forming your own party of people on the same page as you. Good luck with that!

[Risvertasashi]

The level 60 dungeon (or was it the trial?) has a not-so-short cutscene in the middle of the fight.
I wish SE hadn't done it that way. I was fortunate to have a second player doing it for the first time as well so it wasn't a big deal to watch it. The content still being new to many helps but I wish they would tell the story differently.

For the most part, they have made it so cutscenes happen after you leave the instance. But, I guess they couldn't do all the narrative they wanted for that one. Still far, far less than the old 8 man story dungeons.

[Vayanne]

I also prefer watching cutscenes "live". However, at first, since I didn't want to come out as rude for making people wait for me either, I skipped them and was sorry about that, especially when we usually happened to wait anyway for a few other people watching the cuntscenes themselves. So now I go the middle ground: when entering a new dungeon I press "enter" and ask in party chat if there are any other people watching the cutscene and/or whether they wouldn't mind me watching it. I've met a few crazy tanks rushing anyway but so far this strategy is working and the little somewhat immersion-breaking chat box is a small price to pay for my peace of mind.

[Lucke]

As I tank these dungeons, I'll offer to stay behind while the people watch the CSes. Nowadays, people are so overgeared, you don't need two tanks for those last couple dungeons. I don't even think you need tanks any more lol. Anyways, after the dungeon, I always get a few comms, prolly from the people I stayed behind with.

I do think SE should lock the bosses until everyone is out of their CS. Make the game force the CS to continue after 30 seconds so trolls don't hold the party hostage.

[Amiaze]

This is certainly a problem that was addressed with Heavensward. I only got to experience the final two dungeons in 2.0 when we were busy with T9 and decided to rerun things for fun. I hardly fought in them my first time through.

Fortunately, my friend tanks and I used to heal (maining MCH now, but leveling AST), so either way, the party can't go forward without one of us. The cutscenes are there for a reason and, as someone else said, you completely lose the effect if you just wait to watch them at the inn. It's only a few minutes, and we should all be patient for others.

[nuyu11]

I'm lucky because I go with my FC mate that time they wait for me.
But that content can be considered old already, why don't SE give new player options to go with AI just for story purpose.

[Gyson]

I wish I could say it gets better, but it sadlly doesn't. I didn't get to the newest raid instance (Alex) until the second week it was out. There was a brief cutscene before at the start of the run - brief in that it completed by the time someone typed out "ugh watch the cs later in the inn plz". And then "thx" after noticing the cutscene icon was no longer above my head (as if I had ceased my enjoyment of the game's experience just for him). The two story instances you're referring to are probably the most cutscene heavy examples out there. But that won't stop impatient players from spitting on you later on down the line if you choose to take up even 30-60 seconds of their time with an introductory cutscene elsewhere. More often than not, the FFXIV community is just horrible like that.

My advice to new players (if you can manage it) - go with friends. I'm big on the storyline and was warned in advanced that the 2.0 story ended with some cutscene-heavy instances that were often a nightmare experience for new players. So, I went to my guild's forum and made a thread asking if a) anyone would be willing to go, with the understanding that we'd be pausing and watching the cutscenes as they happened, and b) (taking it a step further) we'd be doing the run with our ilevel 45-50 artifact gear/no equipment above i-level 55 (which is now even easier with the new dungeon sync options, something that didn't exist back then). People were actually nervous we'd suffer wipes trying to do the dungeon "at the intended ilevel", but we were more than fine.

I ended up having more people signing up for the run that I could take, with people in my guild donating their supplies and time to craft up ilevel ~50 accessories and weapons for our group. And we had a blast joking around on voice-chat the entire run. I could not have asked for a better finale to my 1-50 storyline, and that is honestly how everyone should try to experience it at all possible. Every time I hear of an experience like the original poster's or someone settling for watching the cutscenes later on in the inn (when the context of the moment is missing), it just makes my inner-gamer and RPG lover sad.

[Dante_V]

NO NO NO!!!
Unless you watch them in the game they will not appear in the Inn journal! All three of my characters missed out on personally experiencing the Castrum and Praetorium/Ultima CS because I was forced to skip them. The only things in the inn are Leader's speech outside the Castrum before you go in, and the ending CS after the Praetorium is finished, where you do the mad dash outside on the reaper.

They are in there because I have skipped them and watched them later. You need to make sure you are on the right ones and then after you watch the first click the little ">" arrow by the bar that looks like play and it will bring up the next cut scene. It took me a minute to figure it out also cuz I had the same problem.

The fact that Square put a 30 min cut scene in a dungeon on a daily roulette is insanity. They should have known better and you can't be mad at the player running the roulette to not want to watch the same 40 mins worth of cut scenes in a 20 min dungeon everyday. Luckily this doesn't happen in the Heavens ward story.

[EveK]

There's also an undersized party option that allows you to enter with less than eight people. You won't get XP for the fights, but you'll be able to do it with, for example, a level 60 friend or two. I recently had lots of fun doing CM as a 60 paladin with just a 50 white mage and 51 monk. Really let us master the fights' mechanics. Remember to repair =).

[Yshnal]

They were put in the roulette to help those that need to do them for the first time (otherwise they can't progress the story). They have even increased the rewards for doing them, and they introduced the "new player" bonus. I don't know what else do people need to stop thinking about "ME ME ME" and consider why these dungeons are there in the first place. Is it that hard to wait and let others experience the content as it was meant to be experienced?

If you do the main scenario roulette you should be aware that you can get these kind of players, and you should act accordingly or not enter at all. You can try to use as many excuses as you want, but going there knowing all that and not waiting for someone new is rude and unwelcoming, no matter how you try to explain or distort it. We all are the first ones interested in keeping all those new players playing the game, and not leaving.